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How will sated devourer interact with periodic on hit effects

Mr Sir Lebowski·7/8/2015, 4:53:07 PM·1 votes·5,815 views

For those of you who don't know yet, the new sated devourer will cause on hit effects to happen twice on one attack but this will only happen every other attack. It seems pretty straight forward for mots on hit effects however there are periodic on hit effects to consider.

two examples would be GP's new passive Shen's passive (he actually might have 2 interactions, the part of his W that says while his shield holds it reduces the CD on his passive by an additional 1 second, and his actual passive dmg proc) Udyr's phoenix proc

Regardless of if these are viable junglers or if it's smart to get devourer on them I wonder how sated devourer interacts with these periodic on hit effects.

Let's say you have a sated devourer on Shen and you move in for a gank and your passive on hit goes off. Does sated devourer keep track of if the next attack will double the on hit effects or does it restart every combat, and can a periodic on hit effect like that be just completely wasted with a sated devourer?

If it is possible to completely whiff with this concerning these periodic on hit effects I think it should be looked at

15 Comments

Kazaashi7/8/2015, 5:06:14 PM2 votes

The "On-Hit" effect is only doubled if they apply to all auto attacks. It is coded like two AA in a row, with the second one's dmg portion removed.

Garen's Q, Nasus' Q, Shyv's Q, Shen's Passive, Poppy's Q, etc. will only Proc once with Stated Devourer

Not sure how Udyr will work with it.

AyRe CoNteMpT7/8/2015, 4:59:06 PM1 votes

i must admit, i totally didnt understand what you were saying.

tho to answer your question, those on-hit effects are charged, that means that they have 1 charge when up, same as nasus Q. sated devourer performs a phantom attack that counts as a normal auto attack but only applies on-hit effects but does deal attack damage.

this means, all on-hit effects that have charges, like nasus Q, gangplanks new passive and shens passive, will have their charges used on the first attack so they are not around for the phantom attack that comes AFTER the regular attack. for example, if xin zhao has three talon strike activated and attacks once, it uses up one charge. then he attacks again and now he uses up one more charge + the phantom attack uses the third charge. this means he knocks up his target in two hits.

Sire Hippington7/8/2015, 5:28:57 PM1 votes

for the, every X hits stuff, it counts as extra attack(so udyrs R procs every 2 attacks, as the second attack counts for two with devourer) Shen has on his passive that every AA reduces the cd by 1sec(2 with W up), so devour doubles that every second hit. New GP's passive has no interaction with AAs other than procing the dot once every 15sec, so no interaction with devourer.

Mr Sir Lebowski7/8/2015, 5:43:30 PM1 votes

Still seems shady, I mean there are plenty more

DIanna Gnar Jayce Jax Jarvan Yi Kha'Zix Lulu Lux Nautilus Quinn Skarner Twisted fate Thresh Vayne Viktor Xerath Ziggs

Sure most of these will never have any relevance but it seems that the responses in this thread are just as confused as I am judging by their answers.

The only one so far that I agree with partly is "The "On-Hit" effect is only doubled if they apply to all auto attacks."

This is most likely how it is coded to work but with all the possible interactions I'm looking for some kind of solid confirmation

Rueian7/8/2015, 5:51:52 PM1 votes

Most of the listed champions are 'consumed' effects. It will only proc once.

Vistha Kai7/8/2015, 5:53:56 PM1 votes

Think of it like this. Everything that is consumed on the next attack won't interact with Devourer.

For example Shen's W will lower passive's CD by additional second, but the attack itself(Ki strike) will only happen once.

Mr Sir Lebowski7/8/2015, 7:55:54 PM1 votes

That makes total sense.... except

If you build a runaans hurricane you can test out at least some of these things and you will find out that some of these are considered on hit effects because they work with runaans.

For example TF's E passive applies to all targets with Runaans but it only procs every few attacks

I can grasp that some of these are probably easily identifiable as consumable like A Nassus Q, I wouldn't even consider that on hit if I thought about it but since TF's proc's with Runaans, how would it work with a sated devourer?

Qexel7/9/2015, 5:14:06 AM1 votes

Don't think people realize where the real advantages begin.

Shaco + Clone

With...

item 3153 item 3074 item 3072 item 3710 item 3006 item 3031

Just imagine both clones with all those items hitting you...

32% max health from botrk 40% lifesteal instead of 20 now from BT + 28% from Hydra (Totaling 68% Lifesteal with two items) 4x the Hydra? (Unchecked)

Squishies would be BTFO from just ONE AUTO.

Well done Rito, you broke the game!

CreationFlaw7/8/2015, 4:58:10 PM1 votes

I believe as long as you have one hit on them, it doesn't really matter. Same with Baron/Dragon etc.

Duke Anax7/29/2015, 8:50:42 AM1 votes

Periodic effects like GP and Shen passive are not affected by devourer at all, because they are not on-every-hit effects, but on-next-hit effects, like Sheen. They only ever happen once.

Shen's other passive however will be affected by Devourer as it happens on every attack.