Can we get a Kindred rework?

BajungaDustin·1/22/2019, 3:31:09 PM·1 votes·878 views

First off i love Kindred (from a lore and art perspective.) I was immediately drawn to the character based on the dialog between the two characters. Back when she first came out I had a lot of fun playing her but she seems to be a steady weak pick with overall terrible abilities and passives.

Q The Q is more or less fine but overall seems to do little more than her auto. The only benefit here is the wall hop which is such a small range that you end up missing it 30% of the time and just hop into the wall instead of over. But overall it leaves a little to be desired.

W Probably the most useful ability in terms of pressure. Throwing this down just seems to make your opponents think twice before walking into the circle. That is until they realize that your wolf is actually an idiot and will attack minions before he will attack them if you haven't marked them with your E. Overall the damage of this ability seems to scale too slow. Each attack does subsequently more damage which means if i get super lucky and run in on a turret to drop it down to kill an enemy who is at 2% life.. AND I manage to get this done at a time when there are no minions close by im thinking yes.. i got the kill.. The Wolf flies in and hits them for like 50 damage first hit. Then the surprise is over and they simply walk out of the circle and im left with a bad taste in my mouth. It would be better if the scale of the damage wasn't so broad. Tighten it up so that first hit of the W carries more weight and becomes more useful. You almost cant even use it while kiting or chasing because they have to stand in the circle way to long for this to do any real threatening damage. Its great for killing tanky minions though i will give it that.

E Probably one of the more straight forward abilities that seems good on paper but less in application. I find myself in team fights and i use this on someone and now i have to sit and auto 3 whole times to do a decent hit on them. In that time 3 of my teammates have died and i have been brought down to sub 10%hp and its just.. ugh. Its so slow. I would rather this be a ranged slow with no damage that i could use to mark targets for wolf at the same range as the outer circle of the W. This would make the W way more focused but still wouldn't fix the lack luster damage it does.

R Whose idea was this? If one of you developers reads this and you know specifically who's idea this ultimate was please put this guys stapler in jello for me. An ult that prevents anything from dying and then heals everyone when its done. So.. its a kill zone target for anyone NOT inside it. You basically wait and time your abilities to target the kindred or whoever else is in it and then fire a split second before and the heal goes off and then you one shot her. Also since kindred lacks any real escapes if you are 1v1 in the ult then you are going to lose the inevitable face-off 80% of the time. I mean what are you going to do honesty? Q for distance, W, E, .. then 3 autos before you have done significant damage from the E and about the same time before your W puts in any real work. Meanwhile Garen just walks up to and pushes one button. This would be more beneficial as literally anything else. some form of CC would be lovely. Could actually make the W and E way better as they are. Only thing this ult is currently good for is stopping Lee sin from stealing Baron.

Passive Jungling against a Kindred is essentially a solid win if you play this smart and you know what kindred does. Kindred cant do any decent damage unless she is ahead on marks. This means she needs to get marks. Low and behold the enemy team can see the marks. So at this point what should the enemy jungle do? you would think go take the camps... but in reality ward the camps and wait for lackluster Kindred to mosey into your jungle. Let her put the majority of the damage into the mob and walk up to her smite the mob and kill get because you know she cant kill you. Then just wait for the next mark and do it again. congratulations you just made sure kindred sucks for the entire game.

All and all i love the character and I love that she is jungle. it just feels right. I would love for her to get a solid rework because i just cant bring myself to play her anymore and she is in my top 3 favorite champions and it just sucks.

1 Comments

usul12021/22/2019, 5:17:27 PM1 votes

Kindred's ult is fantastic imo. Thematically it creates the life/death duality and its a really unique utility gameplay wise.

Tbh I don't see her enough to comment on her needing a full rework (but from memory I think her kit is good even if tuning tends to be too high/low), but if she did I hope they keep ult and hunts.