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This whole "open mid" culture is fucking retarded

Iriya·2/15/2017, 2:50:40 PM·184 votes·10,298 views

There are way too many people who think they're in fucking challenger and will just spam that surrender button until it happens. News flash, you're not in fucking challenger where players barely make any mistakes. Your mid lane is even, top might be slightly behind. The game isn't fucking over. Having a bit of a gold deficit isn't the end of the world. Just play conservatively for once, maybe let your opponents get over-aggressive and capitalise on it. I don't understand this whole "gg open mid" shit going on when most of the people who spam this shit are in an elo where people throw all the time.

Edit: I'm not referring to games where its like 5/35 or something ridiculous like that. I'm referring to games where one lane is getting taken to pound town while the rest of the team seems to be doing not too badly. Like, don't you think maybe, just maybe that when you spam that surrender vote and spam "lel open mid" like a fucking parrot, maybe you lower your chances of actually winning and instead you tilt your team members into playing like shit.

174 Comments

StudMuffinChris2/15/2017, 4:21:59 PM38 votes

To be fair, I'm not trying to invalidate your point, but more often than not it's not because we want to open mid but from what we've seen in laning phase we don't hold out much hope for team fights. It's not because we want to give up, but just rather if your top lane is pushed past the river with no wards and dies 4 times to the enemy Darius, odds are that the team fights aren't going to be much better. It's honestly about gauging the relative skill of your teammates and how well that's going to translate to late game. If I have an early game lane bully in both mid and top and they both get stomped, that's not going to get any better.

Spoofghoul2/15/2017, 6:16:25 PM22 votes

I blame Riot for this

They made this game so snowbally that if you fall behind your chances of success drop so fast that most players will consider it a waste of time to continue to play Got a feeding toplaner? gg ff20 open mid Your adc sucks arse and fed 2 kills early gg ff 20 open mid

Shit spirals out of control so fast that it is a waste of time to continue playing in at least 90+ % of the cases

Can't blame people for not willing to waste their time with such bad odds at success

Sraeg20132/15/2017, 6:04:10 PM9 votes

Your mid lane is even, top might be slightly behind. The game isn't fucking over. Having a bit of a gold deficit isn't the end of the world.

I fucking wish it was only "slightly" behind. It's not "slightly" behind when top, adc and support are 0/5/0 each after 10 minutes.

In the past month I haven't had a single game that was lost and wasn't a stomp. Sure some of them last longer than 25 or 30 minutes, but that doesn't imply my team had a chance to win only because of that.

You can try to defend, but what's the point, when the enemy team has all inner towers and you don't even have one at the very Nexus?

SiG DxD2/15/2017, 8:44:39 PM8 votes

open mid /ggez should be bannable for few days

Billybaroo23142/15/2017, 10:57:35 PM7 votes

Part of the problem is they see the pro's, Streamers, "Good players", who do this without realizing that they know the enemy team is not going to let them come back. They are not going to let them free farm, and run around and chase kills, and not push objectives. The Pro teams know when you have a person down, put your foot on their throat and finish them. They realize also that Kills do not win games, objectives do. So many think that a kill score means your good. I will take an 0/3/0 Ashe/Sorak over the 3/0/0 Jhin/Malphite that took both bot towers because the other two wanted to chase kills and never pushed in a lane any day. Usually the team that does that wins even though down early. Only one way to win in LOL and it's not Kills/gold/dragons/blue buffs/red buffs/jungle camps/or Baron. The only way you win is to blow up the Enemy Nexus before they do yours. If they can't do that I don't care if the score is 30-0 in their favor they will LOSE every time.

Verxint2/15/2017, 6:06:17 PM7 votes

Half the time I see people call open mid they go right back to their lane as always. Even the mid laner.

Great Fox2/16/2017, 6:17:57 AM6 votes

I don't blame the people doing, I blame the way the game is catered right now.

Most games are both decided and finalized in the laning phase, just because of how easy it is to snowball and how difficult it is to come back.

Ravenous Howls2/15/2017, 8:04:02 PM6 votes

This is the problem with many people is that they do not seem to realize that every game has margin to be won or lost.

I had a game last night out jungler forgot smite. They had all the dragons and 2 barons and we just kept at till we won.

Last season I died 3 times to a Jax top as Nasus and our Vi wanted to FF. Mid and Bot were fairing as well as me or worse. Despite the fact the enemy had kills they had virtually no objectives. The enemy team made a few mistakes I got several kills and then became a monster. My team grouped and pushed for objectives and we won a huge team fight by Baron and we went straight down mid to end.

If you play like you can win every game then you'll climb and have a much greater success rate. But if you constantly get frustrated and don't try to learn and play it out then you'll never improve. The game is not over until the nexus blows up. I am speaking strictly in the case no one rage quit. Full team trying to play and make picks and take objectives.

MysticFlameHaze2/15/2017, 9:09:54 PM5 votes

honestly think those who say that should get an instant punishment as I see it as Negative attitude and trolling. They start being toxic 90% of the times and for whatever reason i dont understand when people say that they come mid and feed. that's not even open mid lol.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku2/15/2017, 7:23:08 PM5 votes

TBH when i want to open... its not because i think the game is loose, but because my m8 aren't only stupid but don't listen... mainly when im the only to have a possitive kda and the only to carry the game. I know i'll climb, so just let me next

warpenguin5552/15/2017, 5:18:06 PM5 votes

Honestly i feel like its necessary sometimes. 2 people rage quit after you can remake why even try to play that out? I do agree that it shouldn't be done as much as it is currently though.

Also the best part is the people who call for open mid every time the game doesn't go their way often wonder why they can't climb

minimarinehero2/15/2017, 11:18:44 PM5 votes

yeah i completely agree i think one of the most exciting parts of the game is coming back from a large deficit.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

FioraWillCarry2/15/2017, 7:57:02 PM4 votes

This season, small leads turn into huge leads very very often. Back in Season 5 it was not unrealistic to expect a comeback from something like 5/35, in contrast, this season, a single lane getting 2 kills early quite often leads to a ridiculous avalanche of pure abuse by the team that gets those kills. Something is wrong with the game. It's way too difficult to turn around games this season which is why this "open mid" culture exists.

My proposed solution is to lower kill gold by 30% and give outer towers an extra 1000 HP.

invisiblecat12/16/2017, 2:04:24 AM4 votes

I hate those people who lose lane, and say "I don't feel like playing anymore" You hit the play button and then accepted the queue you are going to play until the surrender vote goes off or the nexus dies

The Yetii Rider2/15/2017, 5:08:50 PM4 votes

I don't agree with open mid but the reason it happens is because it's so fucking hard to honestly surrender. 80% in favor? Failing to vote counts as a no? Can't surrender until 20 minutes even if someone rage quits at 8 minutes? It's awful.

Worst part is a 3/2 vote. Honestly the least fair aspect of this game. 60% is considered a super majority in Congress but in League 40% hold all the power.

The Cane Master2/15/2017, 11:30:16 PM4 votes

Actually open mid saves everyone's time overall.

If your laning phase goes terrible, people get fed, it means that there is little to none chances of coming back. It requires teamwork, a lot of strategic farming and warding, not contesting objectives until you can win the teamfight, and people not dying anymore. All in all none of these elements are present in solo queue, and even if they were, this doesn't mean you are not better off surrendering immediately and grab another game in 5 min.

Kr1sys2/15/2017, 3:02:43 PM3 votes

I've had games where this occurs even with a large margin ahead of the enemy team. If that one lane is losing and can't bother to look past what is happening just to them I'm going to hear nothing but whining and a 'lets quit' mentality. It's really silly, and can easily cause losses by tilting your own team, or just continuing that negative thinking and throwing the game harder.

CorruptedScythe2/15/2017, 7:59:47 PM3 votes

I actually think that you should never ff. It pisses me off when my teammates 4-1 me.

Takito2/16/2017, 12:46:42 AM3 votes

To be honest i completely agree with you. The only time it's worth ff is when your whole team is on tilt or something like that.

Just won a game where we were behind from AT LEAST 10K golds , more probably 15-20K for the major part of the game.

If you got enough wave clear and your golds is on the good players, its always possible.

Sintama2/16/2017, 3:53:53 AM3 votes

I don't even get "top lane is slightly behind." I get top is ahead/fed, mid is ahead/fed, I'm jungle and I'm ahead/fed, but botlane is 2/3 with 180 farm at 20 minutes and they're like "AFK I give up."

Xonra2/16/2017, 5:54:41 AM3 votes

I'm not in challenger, but I'm sure not gonna get there any faster because you refuse to surrender a lost game with 1 tower to 5 and less than half the enemy team's kills, and no dragons, so I can sit here for an extra 25 minutes past surrender time, because your fragile ego can't handle a loss. Playing the time of two games in one because you can't handle a surrender is more tilting than losing the actual game.

You people can make all the "don't give up I won a 4v5 this one time 3 years ago" comments or "you aren't challenger, never give up" speeches you want, but you are just wasting people's time because, even if you won't admit it, you just can't handle losing. You might want to argue "you can't handle losing so you want to give up", yet I'm the one who is admitting we got stomped, want to surrender, and YOU are the one holding the game hostage cause your ego can't take a loss and move on.

Just sayin'

Dominick Destine2/16/2017, 5:58:38 AM3 votes

Good chess players tip over their king when they realize the match will end in defeat.

Terrible chess players continue playing even after the match has been decided.

Troll for Trump2/16/2017, 2:29:02 AM3 votes

I'm not referring to games where its like 5/35 or something ridiculous like that. I'm referring to games where one lane is getting taken to pound town while the rest of the team seems to be doing not too badly. Like, don't you think maybe, just maybe that when you spam that surrender vote and spam "lel open mid" like a fucking parrot, maybe you lower your chances of actually winning and instead you tilt your team members into playing like shit.

At one point, you would need something extreme like 35-5 to snowball to a 99% guaranteed victory. These days? a 7 kill gap is enough. Riot is now working to fix that, especially with the XP changes.

Lothàrs Edge2/16/2017, 2:41:29 AM3 votes

Good thing you specified cause I was about to say that I'm not about to sit through a game where it's 0-15. I'll suggest an open mid at that point.

Earl Eulrich2/16/2017, 12:28:18 AM2 votes

well, as the game had become more and more unfun to play and unlikly toturn around once you´re behind it was bound to happen eventually. Blame the designers, not the players.

Joek91002/15/2017, 9:40:08 PM2 votes

I was playing a ranked game a few weeks ago and I had lost almost all hope for my game, I was the only one doing well mid and the rest of my team was feeding. I remember watching one of QT's streams and he said something along the line of, "I don't think we can win this but I'll try my best." Which is what I said to myself and we were very behind. Sure enough later in the game once we got together as a team we were unstoppable we got like 7 towers and inhib plus drag and baron within like 4 minutes or something like that. I looked up the game after we finished and we were behind by like 18.4k gold or something near that and ended up being ahead by the end of it, there is always a chance you can come back.

Iźuku Midoriya2/16/2017, 2:32:14 AM2 votes

Well League is also a mentally based game. If youre not in the right mind like youre tilted, youre going to be more upset if something little happens like your support KSs you. So then you flame them and then that goes back and forth and you get to this game is hopeless we lost. Then when one person starts to think it, everyone else starts to think it and its just a domino effect