Sona Feedback From BR Players, Part Two

XXnIE66Rui·8/13/2014, 10:25:30 PM·4 votes·1,559 views

Hello,

Two weeks ago I wrote a topic with some feedback from members of a Brazilian community of League of Legends players, translated into English. While we realize Riot is one company and feedback given to the Brazilian branch can reach the main branch, the Brazilian forums are a convoluted blob of different topics (we don't have as many forum categories as these boards do) and it's easy for feedback to get lost in the sea of fast-moving topics. That, and a lot of players talk a lot in our community, but not in the forums!

Back then we were asked to return with more feedback once some time had passed. It's been a little while, so I asked people, again, what their thoughts on Sona were, if they had changed their minds, and so forth. Here is the Facebook post and here is the post on our website.

Here's what people had to say:

#1

"Well, in the first few levels she's too squishy, in some cases with no poke damage, for instance, against a Janna/Karma with a good shield, and I believe that since she is squishy she doesn't fit with the new mechanics much, she has to take risks for her buffs to work and she can be bursted while doing so."

#2

"I believe she's very weak in her first few levels, they could at least buff her base life, or give her a bit more resistances, she is practically harmless before level 3.

Something that would improve her dynamics would be increase her movement speed, her 'E', the range is very small, allies have to be practically glued to her to receive the buff, that gets in the way a bit."

#3 (14 likes)

"She's much more supportive, has much more utility, but her E leaves something to be desired, small range..."

#4 (3 likes)

"Balanced and fun, the new Sona allows playing her to not be purely for her ultimate. Her Q provides great poke with the ADC, her W can keep both in lane and her E is great to work with positioning. The fact that ranking up her ult improves her other skills is very interesting."

#5 (1 like)

"Her heal and the Q damage improved significantly... it's really good, "matching" (my opinion) Soraka in that regard, however, her E, Song of Celerity, is not as effective, really its effect almost can't be felt, it's a short movement boost for a short time... I believe that skill isn't viable, which makes Talisman of Ascencion a better gold item for her than FQC."

In response to the above:

"Song of Celerity has a very small range :/ for a high cooldown"

"It's not so much the range... which I understand forces Sona to position better to help the whole team, the problem is the low movement speed it gives."

#6 (1 like)

"I find her to be very squishy for a support that needs to be in the middle of the fight to be effective."

In response to the above:

"But she has the shield and a very high heal"

"Even still I find her squishy :/"

"And she is very squishy, it's characteristic of Sona to be squishy."

#7

"I liked new Sona a lot, however her auras' range is very small... they could boost it with level or even add it to the ult's passive! That'd be great."

#8

"It's very cool playing her now, I just think the heal and her E aren't cutting it in early levels, the R passive is very useful."

#9

"I liked her a lot, but since she is a utility support she is too weak for skirmishes and I think this weakness of hers of having to be near the fight makes her subpar"

#10

"Well, I'm not used to playing support, but I like Sona a lot. The auras around her turned out great, she's easier to play, but their range is very small, it's almost impossible to heal*[sic]* all the players in a teamfight. Her W is infinitely better, but I thought the shield was a bit short (in terms of duration); her Q poke is amazing since you can work together with your ADC, which creates a better in-game interaction; her ult is magnificent, ranking the ult up and improving the other skills is really great; her E isn't very good, you can't really do anything useful with it, because its duration is so short, it was more interesting before; I think she's very squishy, sometimes she gets focused in lane due to the fact she is so fragile, and I think that could be improved too."

#11

"Sona turned out really great, she's really useful and strong."

#12

"Now she has more gameplay opportunities, both*[sic]* in early game when you were forced to start with Spellthief and now we can buy Coin without being slighted in early game. Her E is still subpar, before it could be used in a more useful and safe way since her auras were large and speed was increased from a distance, but now you need to get very close and sometimes end up sacrificing yourself just to give speed to your ally, a significant increase in the movement speed aura would be enough since it's the worst buff (compared to the other two) and since it's a replaceable buff (movement speed gained through Talisman and AoE slow from Gauntlet, not counting item bonuses)."

#13

"They could increase the auras' range as you level her ult, her E is pretty bad, the rest is perfect."

#14

"Sona's much more OP now. I'll just say that. With her auras around her, it's much easier to play her. When she was released I complained a bit about being unable to poke with her, but it was just a matter of getting used to it. Her Q passive, even nerfed, does good damage, besides helping the team more. Her W, even more so. Early on it may not be as useful (if you're not used to it yet) but I thought it was a huge improvement. Her ult is much better, too. Rarely do I lose a lane as Sona (note: I don't think she's that squishy...)"

#15

"What I felt about her was that her level 1 dropped a lot, but she scales much better from level 4 on, on average. Her Q's 'interaction' with other players seemed more invisible to me than her aura (maybe it's just me), but both her W and her E (in spite of its questionable range) are a lot more visible now. About the skills themselves, I feel Q is weaker, W is infinitely superior, and E mildly superior, and her ult is amazing (especially the 'extras' on each rank up for Crescendo)."

#16

"Her Q has great damage, in a teamfight if all your allies can pick up the Q aura the damage is good; same with the W aura, if it can tag everyone it's an AoE shield and the heal is good only for low life allies; I keep my opinion from before, that her E was the only skill fully dependent on the aura, that is, staying near Sona."

#17

"She's good but it's not the same thing I felt when I played her before, no love anymore ;w;"

#18

"I won't comment on gameplay, since to many that's a matter of adapting, but her defenses are veeeery low, very fragile, I don't enjoy playing her anymore :/"

In response to the above:

"It's always been, dude... always been :/ Even before the rework"

"But they managed to make it worse."

"But I swear her base armor got buffed"

#19

"Easier and much more fun to play! Before I didn't like playing Sona, but now, if I can, it'll be great! I think she's 10 times better than before, I owe Riot congratulations!"

#20

"It's hard ._."

In response to the above:

"Hard in what sense?"

"Let's say she's now like Fiddle in terms of defense."

"And the miniscule ranges... you can't fit that many people (the other 4 players) in it to receive the aura."

"They receive the aura if you run after them, that is, you have to move more to buff more."

#21

"I just wanted to say that sometimes her Q passive bugs out, keeps resetting itself. Happened about 3 times to me, already. Which means, infinite bonus damage to allies."

#22

"They should buff her base health, and improve her resistances, since her early game is very weak and she can be easily bursted down. Her E is very unbalanced, it should be buffed a bit and reduce cooldown in early game some."

Worth mentioning again: one person says there is a bug with her Q that gives infinite buffs to AA damage. May be worth looking into, if not already a known bug.

Thanks for reading!

10 Comments

Emmy Cha0s8/14/2014, 2:27:22 AM4 votes

Right now it seems the consensus is Sona is overall stronger, but 1) pretty squishy, 2) her auras' range could be a little bigger, 3) most people think E is underwhelming as a buff. Positive comments included 1) strong Q poke if used with ADC, 2) much better W, 3) excellent changes to her ult.

Actually, according to my tally the consensus was evenly split on overall strength at about 10 apiece, or slightly leaned towards weaker by 1 or 2 comments. It's somewhat uncertain since not everyone states it matter-of-factly. About 8 pointed out her squishiness clearly and only a single person claimed otherwise. Again, 8 specifically mentioned E being bad, but a few others might have hinted about it with only 1 person actually stating it being good. At least half complained about low range, strangely 1 person liked it due solely to visibility. Then, a few players also mentioned high CDs on W and E.

Only 4 players thought Q was strong, with another 4 being of an opposed view. The feedback on W is mixed, about 5 or so people mentioned it being stronger, but half of those same people still made it noteworthy of other factors: weak values at ranks 1 and 2; and short shield duration. R had no real changes, the comments to it fall into 2 specific categories: comments about the visual changes; players who don't play or care about Sona and so don't realize there was no change.

About 4 players commented without saying anything constructive. Amongst those, 1 person thought she was good. The rest liked the changes, but they all felt she's too weak to make use of them.

These are rough estimations and some guess-work had to be made. It seems to me the comments favor her being quite weak or at least weaker than previously, especially in regard to her durability, Song of Celerity, the small "aura" range and her early game as a whole. I won't point out which comments came from non-Sona players, but they should be obvious.

Sunfield8/13/2014, 10:49:40 PM2 votes

You are doing Riot a big favor.

From my point of view, Sona has always been squishy and her new kit doesnt punish her harder for it than the old one did... but I wouldnt say no to defense buff

FantasySniper8/14/2014, 3:08:53 AM2 votes

At least these guys know what they're talking about.

Most, if not all, of the "Sona mains" were only complaining about her lack of range.

I actually find her to be pretty strong, her trading is incredible, and with some MS she can basically zoom around buffing everything in sight. People in games have told me to slow down and stop being so OP :P

XXnIE66Rui8/14/2014, 5:11:45 AM1 votes

Updating with an extra comment. Also removing the consensus bit since it's open to interpretation (shouldn't be in the main post, sorry about that).