Can we seriously fix Blitzcrank's Pull visual hitbox?

Best Valor NA·6/25/2018, 4:08:51 PM·56 votes·16,664 views

Alright I'm fine with large hitboxes as long as I can see them. This shows how bad the visuals of the ability really are. And how janky interaction with Wukong W is.

I've included a clip of the play, and I've also got some pictures for some more clarity.

https://i.imgur.com/DNBoWx1.png and https://i.imgur.com/6ajRcPQ.png

https://youtu.be/r6E_KnFBMpM

Another fun picture obtained by going almost frame by frame: https://i.imgur.com/9V52ld2.png

41 Comments

webstar19956/25/2018, 4:09:38 PM16 votes

he is dabbing leave him alone

SammyDayspring6/25/2018, 10:19:35 PM11 votes

They made it a homing grab. Didn't you read the last patch notes?

Sun Wu Ryuumoku6/25/2018, 5:41:28 PM7 votes

Should do this for many champs if you ask me (lux, thresh....)

Tormentula6/26/2018, 3:30:32 AM5 votes

Its because of the camera.

In league there is no Y axis except for visuals, so the skillshot hitbox is actually lower then the visual. (so if you were higher the hook would instead look like it'd hit but actually didn't.)

Only way to fix this, is to narrow the distance between the floor axis and the hook, but unless they VGU blitz that will never happen.

Look up elevation in league of lgends, its real.

All Day Tay Tay6/26/2018, 12:06:00 AM3 votes

Iblitzcrank is banned in competitive cuz the animation doesnt match what is actually happening. im serious

Its All Skillzz6/25/2018, 10:20:30 PM2 votes

If you look closely, he didnt dodge the hook, he went into stealth and the hook already connected, but cause of the way decoy works, he got hooked while invis cause decoy pushed his char model below it.

Troll for Trump6/25/2018, 9:54:36 PM2 votes

IT"S AN AERIAL PROJECTILE

Verarticus6/26/2018, 4:39:31 AM2 votes

Actually I think in this case this is actually Wukong clone jank, rather than the universal skillshot desync issue.

I think what happened was wukong cloned, got his hitbox pushed back for a split second because his clone was in the way and then got zipped forward to where he was suppose to be. Blitz's grab hit the hitbox, then got warped forward with wukong to keep the visual effect correct for the returning graphic.

Daddy Ants6/26/2018, 9:22:44 AM2 votes

Wow that pull was bullshit.

All hooks need hitboxes looked at. Blitzcrank ThreshNautilus

Blitzcrank Thresh are the worst offenders though.

Eeyore6/26/2018, 10:53:17 AM2 votes

To be honest - that's not a hitbox issue. That's a queuing issue. Wukong activated his Decoy in the same tick that he was hit by Rocket Grab, meaning that both happened. It's the same interaction as when Tristana uses Rocket Jump at the exact same time she's hit, and she ends up stretching his fist over half a mile. Two abilities resolve at the same time. The distinction here is that "move blocks" (dashes and airbornes) interrupt each other - so whereas Rocket Jump cancels Rocket Grab, Decoy doesn't.

The "weird hitbox" is a compound issue, but it's primarily caused by Decoy.

  • Blitzcrank's returning fist always locks itself to the center of characters that it's hit - so there's the abrupt transition from clipping you on the ass to suddenly being in the middle of you. This isn't usually as visually jarring as shown above, but that's due to the second issue:
  • Decoy "pushes" Wukong forward - like a mini-dash, except it's not classified as a dash to trigger the same interaction as Rocket Jump. I've seen Wukongs use Decoy to dodge a Lux ultimate even while rooted, because he gets moved one-Teemo away even though he's suppose to be immobile.

If Riot changed the "grab" to instead move the target to be in-line with the fist, instead of the other way around, it would probably resolve a lot of the visual issues. Even if they did "improve the visuals" with a width-indicator (like Pyke's Drowned Undertow), this particular interaction would have still happened - because it's Decoy's fault, not Rocket Grab's.

50CaliberHecate6/26/2018, 3:38:44 AM1 votes

The only hit box that's trash in this game is Ahri charm, and I've done already proved my point on it several times in several posts that clearly shows how it is messed up. Yet, League still ignores me cause' fuck lower elo players... everything matters when a pro says something, but not when a silver player does. It's not like I asked to be in silver, but god fucking forbid getting to any other ranked is nearly impossible with how troll everyone is in the lower tiers.

BearGrillz346/27/2018, 12:25:59 AM1 votes

Just letting you know, similar stuff like this happens with Thresh. I was behind minions 100 times and it still hooks you even if it hooks NEAR you but not at you. It's really stupid and I don't think they'll ever fix this. It's been there since forever.

kurdt9116/26/2018, 6:32:33 AM1 votes

No, just make another skin for Ahri, Ez, Annie, Lux...ppl will eat.

Best Vi Earth6/26/2018, 7:51:14 AM1 votes

wait. why did you flash lmao. you had your gap close on a minion to use.

NA Darklarik6/26/2018, 1:44:34 PM1 votes

This has been a complaint for more than a year. ALways, ignored by Riot. See if they dont Ignore you like the rest. Its hard for me at this point to still believe they care, because the longer you leave an obvious complaint unanswered, the longer it brews hatred and mistrust, and this one is a long time ignored.

SpecterVonBaren6/25/2018, 11:58:30 PM1 votes

The hitbox is deliberately larger at the end of the hook I believe it was said, in order to give a good feeling to just barely catching someone.

My solution is to make his hand open at the end or make whatever appendage is at the end for the skin get bigger so it at least matches what happens like they did with Morgana's Q visual.

Seer of Mind6/25/2018, 11:40:52 PM1 votes

While i do agree with you (upvoted), one of two things could've happened: 1: The grab is actually bullshit to the point that it grabbed you from that far. 2. You had your mouse behind you and blinked the other way when you cloned.

ali afri6/26/2018, 2:27:01 AM1 votes

nice flash btw LUL

ΦmalphintoΦ6/25/2018, 4:31:12 PM1 votes

xD what can i say? upvoted.

i have many skins for blitz, but he is so hard to manage now so it not a worth playing him tbh. at least in most cases.