Explaining this level 1 midlane strategy

fluxanna·7/9/2016, 4:04:07 AM·1 votes·719 views

So here's one of Moose's videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUfYd_IbXeY

However I'm actually questioning if this works on everyone- I mean, my laning is just bad. I'm fine at pretty much everything but laning, however I feel that this seems really hard on some midlaners....?

For instance, how could this work on Lux? I mean let's say you're Lux vs. Fizz midlane.... Moose is certainly better than I am, however he totally hasn't explained how to get this to work.

6 Comments

Slack King7/9/2016, 4:06:14 AM1 votes

I cant tell whats going on, looks like a blue pixel did someting to a purple pixel

TehNACHO7/9/2016, 4:11:41 AM1 votes

Watching the first 15 seconds of the video and I can tell you, yeah pretty much.

Works for all champions that can initiate trades flexibly. Look for an opportunity to spook the shit out of your opponent, do so, and get the early game advantage.

There are multiple variations of how to do this. In the first clip, all he's doing is abusing cooldowns. Notice how the TF in the video farms with his cards right away. If TF does this, he has literally nothing else to defend himself from a trade. He can't Q and kite, he can't test his E on the following auto attack duel, and he certainly can't W after literally just burning it right away. He is utterly defenseless and that's the perfect opportunity to literally walk right up to him and smack him a bit.

This can apply in a lot of situations really. You know how Junglers keep track of flashes so they know who to hunt down again within the next 5 minutes? Well think of that at its base level: If your target doesn't have an important cooldown to defend themselves with, why not go in? Target doesn't have flash? Dive them. Target doesn't have literally the only basic ability they have at level 1? Go in. It's that simple.

CerealBoxOfDoom7/9/2016, 4:16:49 AM1 votes

its not really a "trick" or "strategy"

This is a basic tactic that has been around for a long time and is part of how you deal with champs like katarina, fizz, or akali.

its a lot harder on AP champs though, against an AD champ like Quinn youre just not going to have early advantage, that's just all it is. I did this as cait once to an azir and I absolutely shat on him but what the video doesn't tell you is that if you do this then odds are you are not playing a conventional midlaner or toplaner meant to do their typical jobs.

another thing to consider is that a champ like Quinn doing this wont mean that she can ignore a full combo from leblanc. You are not really getting a permanent level advantage just repeated temporary ones which is something you will have seen in nearly every match you've ever played, all this does is make the advantage more exploitable by widening the window.

This is not a fancy new trick, this is the basics. A lot of people never think about how leveling actually works in this game or tries to put any math on it or anything. That's why they think theres no point to jungling in URF mode for example.

swiftsnipe7/9/2016, 4:32:14 AM1 votes

Heimerdinger TF made a big mistake which allows this strategy to work

If you look at that initial trade you will notice that TF's caster minions were not attacking quinn.

This is because TF backed away so far from his minions that they were out of range. Quinn therefore didn't draw minion aggro because the minions didn't recognize a friendly champion being attacked.

If TF stands his ground here and doesn't back off he goes even or wins that trade.

Heimerdinger Math

Caster minions do about 17 damage lvl 1 if quinn has 30 armor. trade lasts 4 seconds which means each gets 3 attacks. x 3 casters.

17x3x3 = 150 dmg Plus TF should have been auto attacking back. Plus he Would have been behind his casters to avoid quinns Q

This is an even trade.