Questions about the Steel Shadow

iSeaSalt·8/5/2018, 10:56:33 AM·2 votes·1,725 views

The Steel Shadow aka Camille:

Arcane Comet, PTA, Electrocute or Conqueror? Could you guys explain WHEN to take which rune, and against which champion for example? There are so many options...

And why are so many people suddenly ditching Comet for PTA, when a few months ago everyone hated PTA on Camille cause it didn’t apply on her second Q?

And what specific rune should you take when against eh... Garen or Darius? Arcane Comet for poke in lane or PTA/Conqueror for longer face-to-face trades?

Thanks ^^

2 Comments

Ahpe8/5/2018, 12:31:22 PM1 votes

Here's a nice little matchups cheat sheet that really helps.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CamilleMains/wiki/matchups/top#wiki_camille_.28mirror.29

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/6/64/Press_the_Attack_rune.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/52?cb=20171126181645 Best for 1v1ing against other fighters and extended fights

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/e/e5/Arcane_Comet_rune.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/52?cb=20171126182011 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/e/e5/Scorch_rune.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/52?cb=20171004081728 Take it if you think you can easily poke them down. ##Don't Don't take https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/8/8c/Gathering_Storm_rune.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/52?cb=20170926025345 unless the game will go past 20 minutes.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/0/0a/Electrocute_rune.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/52?cb=20171126182032 A really strong keystone but on any bruiser, you only take this rune if you think you can burst down the enemy laner. This is good against QuinnYasuo

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/2/20/Conqueror_rune.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/52?cb=20180314225947 People say to take this against tanks_(DrMundoVolibear too)_ but you really don't do enough damage to a lot of tanks in the laning phase and it will be even harder after some of the buffs they got. Taking https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/9/91/Kleptomancy_rune.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/52?cb=20180319232518 is much more optimal since you'll actually get something out of the trade and you'll be able to utilize it more since your Q already has a 40-60% true damage conversion. Just remember to take item 1054 because you're definitely going to lose the trade damage-wise and when you take Klepto you're not trying to win lane as hard.

#Against Darius: ##On any champion, always try to make trades again Darius as short and as effective as possible. Extended fights against Darius is how you int. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/e/e5/Arcane_Comet_rune.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/52?cb=20171126182011 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/e/e5/Scorch_rune.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/52?cb=20171004081728 To poke him down. Your W is 75 units longer than his pull. ##or https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/7/79/Phase_Rush_rune.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/52?cb=20171126182204 https://media.lolusercontent.com/api/embedly/1/image/resize?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvignette.wikia.nocookie.net%2Fleagueoflegends%2Fimages%2Fe%2Fe5%2FScorch_rune.png%2Frevision%2Flatest%2Fscale-to-width-down%2F52%3Fcb%3D20171004081728&key=f0abbd34f14549f3a15cd94dd9970851&width=150 What you do is Q1 a minion then E -> Q2 Darius and W him while running back IMMEDIATELY so he won't catch you. Take either keystone depending on if you just want more damage or need to be more sticky.

Sire Hippington8/5/2018, 7:07:26 PM1 votes

Arcane vs Low sustain melees to wear them down with you're W PTA vs squishy melees to trade more effective early on. However, it's not as strong later on once you're second Q is mostly truedamage, since truedamage isn't affected by the 10% damage amp.

Electrocute vs squishys, especially ranged ones, to have a high all-in kill threat.

Conqueror vs tanks, though it has similar issues to PTA as her main damage later on already does truedamage and thus doesn't profit from the conversion. The bonus AD still is quite impactfull and it still helps out alot in the early-mid vs armor rush.

I personally also really like Fleet Foodwork vs strong poke or into some champs like Sion or Darius. Ever since it got buffed for melees to give full value from minions, it offers alot sustain in lane, and the extra mobillity helps alot at dodgeing stuff like sions Q, darius Q or disengageing after befor darius gets his passive stacked. It also helps you to stick on a target till the second Q is ready.

Glacial augment can also be strong to dominate good matchups, as it basically gurantees that you can fllow on your first q with a W and a second Q, and if paired with a randuins it can add alot extra utillity for engage later on. Though would only use it if i'm sure i can win trades without a combat keystone and if my team lacks a proper engage.

Dark Harvest is also a rune to watch in save matchups. doesn't do much in the lane, but her cleanup potential in mid-lategame fights gets massive with basically an more powerfull electrocute that resets on takedown and can be recharged by takeing a camp or cannon-minion


For Garen i'd either get fleet foodwork and play it save, the extra speed can help you disengageing from his spin, or go PTA and go for trades, just walk up for AA+Q and then E away duering his Q animation, and then you can E back onto him for AA+Q2 and then walk off.

VS Darius, either commet as he lacks sustain as long as you avoid his Q, or fleet foodwork so you can more easily avoid the Q-blade in trades and out sustain him in between trades, also helps you playing it save should you fall behind. don't try to go for extendet trrades vs his passive, at max get of the second Q and then get away from him.