Laning Advice: How Aggro should I be in this situation? (Gold Support)

mSticky·2/8/2018, 10:54:11 PM·1 votes·440 views
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TL;DR: The most consistent way to climb in solo Q is to smash your lane and roam to other lanes, taking objectives when possible (quote: scarra). Following this, I went on a 14+ ranked win streak from Silver to Gold III playing aggressive supports and there's definitely a lot of truth to that. But what should I do when:

  1. My opponents have a stronger laning presence and my lane has better scaling BUT
  2. My Top/Mid/Jung are losing across the map AND
  3. I'm pretty sure I'm the better player in my 4 man bot lane?

The typical call is just to just neutralize lane (read: don't feed) and let scaling do the work, but if my team is losing, should I take more aggressive risks? Thoughts appreciated.

FULL STORY

DRAFT I'm first pick (and no one wants to trade with me), and my ADC is committed to KogMaw . I pick Lulu , knowing pretty well that I'm gonna get countered or at least neutralized. They pick Blitzcrank Varus . Yikes.

LANING:

  1. Level 1 - Blitzcrank starts missing a lot of hooks and Varus doesn't respect my poke. I'm pretty sure that I can smash this lane, but my KogMaw just wants to farm. Regardless, I poke out the Varus (who keeps pushing for no reason) and eventually my jungler comes and KogMaw gets a kill + assist. We base, life is good.

  2. We're back in lane and everyone has 6 now. My KogMaw has similar items to the enemy Varus . At this point I've stopped poking Varus , mainly because walking up to land an E , will usually lead to me eating a Varus E myself, which would give Blitzcrank a free kill set up just by walking up and uppercutting either me or KogMaw . Varus keeps pushing (again, for no reason), and my KogMaw seems happy to freeze lane just outside of our turret, so that's what we do. Generally, we'd just sit in this position and wait for another gank, but...

  3. After ganking our lane, our Jungle failed a gank in mid and top, ending up with a 1-for-0 and 2-for-0 trades, respectively. All three have fallen behind and are doing that passive-aggressive flaming that we ALL LIKE. At this point, I'm not sure whether I need to force aggression into my lane and try to get KogMaw snowballing, or to stick to the plan and pray that my team can make something work from a losing position. I choose the latter.

CONCLUSION: It doesn't pay off. The other three positions continue to fall further and further behind. Eventually, we get 4 manned by Mid/Jungle and 5 manned when their Top TPs down. Our top comes as well, but it's not enough. We trade 3-for-1 and lose bot turret. Varus gets two kills and the game spirals out of control from there with a fat Yasuo dicking everyone.

Never expect anyone to carry you in Solo Q. If you deserve to climb, you carry yourself. But when that mentality conflicts with your lane’s primary win condition (i.e. surviving), what do you do to win most consistently? Lemme hear it boys.

Thanks.

4 Comments

ƒrostγ2/8/2018, 10:57:27 PM1 votes

Sadly as a support there is not much you can do in a situation like this.

mSticky2/8/2018, 11:17:46 PM1 votes

Also, this should probably be moved to General Discussion, if a mod could help me out...

TheProfezzor2/9/2018, 1:12:57 AM1 votes

I generally only play all in damage supports I can carry with. Off meta which a lot of people are scared about in solo q (understandable as they don’t know me). This is also why I don’t flash my riven or Vlad support picks. This means I am in a kill lane bottom and I always tell my adc follow my lead. When I go in it’s an all in. Focus who I focus etc. if the adc is reasonably competent it works. I easily consider myself a low plat tier player and reached that this Preseason. Landed in g3 after placements and had the worst losing streak this past weekend I have ever had. Demoted twice. Regardless it was not due to my game play and I wouldn’t pick the champs I do if they didn’t work.

I guess to your point. Some games aren’t winnable especially if your adc doesn’t want to force the issue like you guys should have done. Take tower and get out of laning phase because your other lanes are falling behind and quick.