Laning Advice: How Aggro should I be in this situation? (Gold Support)
TL;DR: The most consistent way to climb in solo Q is to smash your lane and roam to other lanes, taking objectives when possible (quote: scarra). Following this, I went on a 14+ ranked win streak from Silver to Gold III playing aggressive supports and there's definitely a lot of truth to that. But what should I do when:
- My opponents have a stronger laning presence and my lane has better scaling BUT
- My Top/Mid/Jung are losing across the map AND
- I'm pretty sure I'm the better player in my 4 man bot lane?
The typical call is just to just neutralize lane (read: don't feed) and let scaling do the work, but if my team is losing, should I take more aggressive risks? Thoughts appreciated.
FULL STORY
DRAFT
I'm first pick (and no one wants to trade with me), and my ADC is committed to
. I pick
, knowing pretty well that I'm gonna get countered or at least neutralized. They pick
. Yikes.
LANING:
-
Level 1 -
starts missing a lot of hooks and
doesn't respect my poke. I'm pretty sure that I can smash this lane, but my
just wants to farm. Regardless, I poke out the
(who keeps pushing for no reason) and eventually my jungler comes and
gets a kill + assist. We base, life is good. -
We're back in lane and everyone has 6 now. My
has similar items to the enemy
. At this point I've stopped poking
, mainly because walking up to land an E , will usually lead to me eating a
E myself, which would give
a free kill set up just by walking up and uppercutting either me or
.
keeps pushing (again, for no reason), and my
seems happy to freeze lane just outside of our turret, so that's what we do. Generally, we'd just sit in this position and wait for another gank, but... -
After ganking our lane, our Jungle failed a gank in mid and top, ending up with a 1-for-0 and 2-for-0 trades, respectively. All three have fallen behind and are doing that passive-aggressive flaming that we ALL LIKE. At this point, I'm not sure whether I need to force aggression into my lane and try to get
snowballing, or to stick to the plan and pray that my team can make something work from a losing position. I choose the latter.
CONCLUSION:
It doesn't pay off. The other three positions continue to fall further and further behind. Eventually, we get 4 manned by Mid/Jungle and 5 manned when their Top TPs down. Our top comes as well, but it's not enough. We trade 3-for-1 and lose bot turret.
gets two kills and the game spirals out of control from there with a fat
dicking everyone.
Never expect anyone to carry you in Solo Q. If you deserve to climb, you carry yourself. But when that mentality conflicts with your lane’s primary win condition (i.e. surviving), what do you do to win most consistently? Lemme hear it boys.
Thanks.