Let Nocturne be Nocturne

When I first heard of nocturne I thought the ult was global and his dark trail allowed him to pass through terrain, making him almost like an unrelentless boogie man.

God was I disappointed....

I really don't want riot to buff nocturne right now, he's actually quite strong for pubstomping and has the "binary gameplay" that riot seems to hate. If he goes into the meta I can guarantee that he'll be gutted.

A champion is marginally weaker than the best in his class? Let's overbuff him and make him stupidly broken. GD recipe for underused champions shines through.

Honestly? I'm going to have to say no. I was there for Nocturne back in season 2. Hell, I MAINED Nocturne back in season 2. And as much as I loved him, it was incredibly painful for the enemy team because as soon as I hit 6, I could gank lanes from literally inside the middle of the jungle. You... can't do anything about that. You can't ward. You can't just hug tower 24/7. It was just depressing.

You get the burst assassinate by ulting (yes, save it for the kill, not for the initiation), and by Q'ing the ult-target before the ult hits them. The Duskbringer (Q) will hit the target before the Paranoia (R) does. Being on the Dusk Trail (Q) will raise your AD, amplifying your ult damage, then the automatic cleave procs, and that damage will also be amplified by being on the Dusk Trail (Q). Using Shroud of Darkness (W) and blocking a spell at the time all of this is happening doubles the passive AS bonus, allowing you to burst for the kill. Simply clicking R will not assassinate. It takes R+Q while on approach to the R target.

I honestly have a higher winrate with nocturne in top lane than I do in jungle.. he's just that shit at jungling right now.. . Actually no. He's balanced The problem is riot released broken shit like sej/naut/reksai/rework gragas and then gave them cinderhulk so theres literally no reason to play anything else right now unless you're a dedicated main like me who plays evelynn because fuck being a meta sheep.

I could see, with all of the recent mobility creep since the last time Riot touched his ult, a buff being fair. To be honest though, I don't have much trouble with it.

I used to love him, yeah, but it does just seem like he can't compete anymore. It's so much safer and ultimately more rewarding to go with a bruiser type in the jungle slot.

I really like the "Q allows him to go through terrain" idea, but the things that would really put him back in the game would be a lowered ulti cooldown at lower ranks, a small increase to ulti RANGE at the low and high end, and a bit of tether range. Everyone so tanky and mobile right now he just can't do it anymore. And he definitely doesn't "assassinate" anyone. He's got too little burst and he's too squish. He catches people out.

Um no that's kind of stupid he already has a scaling range on it if you have a problem with his base ult's range kinda understandable but u can still ult from your jg with ease.

Quite frankly, I don't see the point, the range is good enough and he'd need to be nerfed in other areas (probs).

Should we bring him in the light of competitive play, or leave him in darkness?

Last nocturne i remember totally ripped our whole team and carried alone...

Let him pass through walls with his Q