What's with all these EXTREME expectation!?

Pyro027·10/26/2014, 7:08:53 PM·48 votes·4,725 views

When did 1 death became "feeding"? How do you get all the CS on your lane when there are 6 player (3 on each team) fighting back and forth in the lane? How do you get all the CS in your lane? what happen if you are dead? (you are missing out some CS)!

Why do you expect me to do well when I explicitly told everyone that I never played certain champion or certain lane before? Whats going through your head? Expecting some magic happens and win the game with 10K gold lead with 15 scores ahead?

What the heck is going on with the LOL community... (Stop expecting EXTREME things in blind pick... seriously)

I am here to learn and get better at LOL... am I going to World championship? probably never. Just stop this nonsense... seriouly

39 Comments

EvilRabbitt10/26/2014, 8:11:02 PM26 votes

I have to agree. Everyone says "go play bots to learn". That doesn't work for 2 reasons.

  1. No IP.
  2. Bots are way too predictable to actually learn.

I do Blind/Draft/Builder to learn a champion, not ranked because ELO. Anywho, it does get nuts. A bit of time back, I was like "First Time Fizz". Got the above comment. I ended up falling behind a lot (yes its hexakill, but thats a fun mode, not a ranked) and we lost. They blamed me.... with a Riven afk and making it 5v6. So....moral? Be more logical LoL community, please. Stop being grumps. =( Scares away all the players, and eventually you will be all alone on an empty game because you drove each other off with that fantastic attitude.

Of course, you can ignore my post and get offended which means you will miss the point. And my prediction will come true. I have WATCHED MMOs die because of this attitude, I know what I'm talking about.

TheSmartestMoron10/26/2014, 10:01:38 PM9 votes

Unfortunately, I think some people are far too competitive with this game and how it's designed. With things like rankings and such, based on my observations, they take each match far too seriously, and can only really have fun when winning. Hell, I had to up my game just to avoid being yelled at, and I am still trying. It's part of the reason I stick with champions that have long-range options just so I don't hear complaints about being too close, although Kayle and my mouse do not get along.

Another problem I had was how this one player in a ARAM match constantly whined how we weren't good enough, but rather than try to help us actually play the champions better or come up with a strategic plan, he just kept whining, even after I told him this. I'm not blind and saying every player is like this LoL. In fact, I have met some very nice players occasionally who are good and can still have fun without swearing in the chat every damn second.

All I can say is good in finding those nice and fun players. They definitely exist.

Yfrappefort10/27/2014, 3:05:24 AM5 votes

I know the feeling. Recently, I played Garen since it has been a while. I was matched against Gnar. It was a horrible lane for me of course.

Then our jungler came to gank, but the enemy did a perfect counter gank and we ended up dying both. Result? "OMG GAREN, you are the worst Garen I have ever seen. You should just afk in base. You suck. blablabla".

I'm not even exagerating here. The jungler blamed me non-stop after this for the rest of the game. But guess whay? We still won that game. I ignored him, went for a split-push build and actually helped around the map a lot since I was weaker for big fights.

Morale, some people just blow their shit way too easily. Raging won't solve anything, it will just make it worse. Yes, I had a terrible laning phase, but I did not rage quit, stayed calm and ended up being still very useful to my team.

giraffiti010/27/2014, 1:52:24 PM5 votes

I have to agree. I recently made a new account to teach one of my friends the game without dragging gold players into his first few games. Our first match I played support so as nt to steamroll the game and yet we had lvl 6 players (clearly smurfing) yelling at him and telling him to uninstall for having poor cs. It was ridiculous! These players may be used to playing with lvl 30s on their main accounts but if you're going to smurf try not to beat up on kids just trying to learn the game.

Jeddy01710/27/2014, 2:43:10 AM3 votes

Some players act like every game is the Worlds Championship Final & expect every player on their team to be as good as SSW with less than 5 deaths the whole game..................when it's a normal blind pick game.................I'm sure there are those guys out there & probably ran into some them before (I just don't care to remember them)

How can anyone get better at anything if they don't play it?It's not Ranked where a little more seriousness is expected,so obviously you're going to have teammates doing things they aren't the best at.Either to try it out or get better. Yes,there will be bad games & some games you'll just have players playing bad.But raging in the chat isn't going to help them improve.Saying "this blah blah bla" isn't going to win the game for you.That's not even constructive criticism.

chuybakka10/26/2014, 10:12:43 PM3 votes

Some of the issues come from some players not knowing what they are actually able to do. If someone is in a game and says new to (insert champ) I will ask if they need me to swing by their lane every once in a while to help push or force a gank.

It doesnt even matter if I'm top, mid, or bot lane I will make an effort to help the other laner out.

But this is where the issue occurs. You have someone who watches streams all day and then says "I played a lot of bot matches I got this." Some people feel that if they can wipe bots that it means they have the champ down. Sadly this is not true. I was in a game where a guy begged me to switch mid to jungle with him before the match started. I said are you sure you got this and he said yes.

So I was like cool I'll go Udyr and swing by if you need me just make sure to ping for help. 30 seconds in he was first blood. Then second then third. Finally he abandoned lane and went bottom. I had to try and fill mid against a Twisted Fate while playing Udyr. Not a pretty sight.

I guess what I am trying to say is that its not always others expecting more from other players its the players themselves thinking too highly of themselves.

Either way both attitudes hinder this game. We need to learn to trust the other players we are with while at the same time not overestimating our own abilities.

Lord Neptune10/27/2014, 4:13:00 AM2 votes

i had a match a few days ago that left a bad taste in my mouth for this reason. after 15 minutes me playing anivia Anivia was dead even in cs vs a lissLissandra. she had the chance to roam botton and picked up 3 kills. the support and adc would not stop complaining about how i was feeding and lost the game for them. i laughed because their inner turret was almost dead by that point. and while liss was roaming i took my turret.

Jamini10/27/2014, 1:46:07 PM2 votes

The solution is to make/find/bring in some friends, and avoid playing with randoms. Getting on Skype with other players can also alleviate some of the issue.

The bulk of the LoL community is very, VERY young. Many of them are self-centered, or unaware of their limitations or how drastically a bad decision and abusive comments can swing a match. Often players, most especially those that play very good duelists (Master Yi, Fiora, Akali, Fizz) do not pay attention to the mana or health bars of their allies and get very upset when someone is unwilling to commit to a losing fight.

My friends and I? We're trash. Half of them are just starting out, and I've only just really started dipping into ranked in the last month. That said, a bit of voice communication and player trust goes a long way. In our last match together, we turned around a 12 kill deficit into a win by simply keeping our heads and focusing on getting our weaker players caught up.

A team is more than the sum of it's parts. Players that go "Me Me Me" without remaining aware of their allies limitations will always hit a wall they cannot surpass. That's just how it is.

Czarodziej10/27/2014, 3:44:31 AM2 votes

Those kind of people don't even read forums.

DrakoUnRama10/27/2014, 12:15:15 PM2 votes

3+ deaths without even an assist is feeding and while I don't take normals too seriously I do expect people to know their own limitations for a champion they don't know by level 30 and yes a game is meant for fun but if you're not here to win and try your best to do so you have to start asking yourself at some point why exactly you're playing a purely pvp game rather than an mmo with pve options

Omnem Occido10/27/2014, 5:25:12 AM1 votes

Here's an idea: A Word of Advice: Have Fun I just wrote this because I felt that people were getting too angry with a game. I hope that some people can take something positive from what I am saying.

Potato Doc10/27/2014, 6:32:56 AM1 votes

There are a few origins of this problem but they all boil down to one real origin, the fear of losing many people have it in their minds that they are amazing, far more amazing then they are, they have a very simple thought process. If my team mate dies then it means hes losing, if hes losing my chances of winning go down. This is an unacceptable circumstance apparently. However when the person is put in a losing situation they expect others to realize they are having a bad game OR they blame a champion being OP/ complain about how their team didnt help them enough. Looking at it we all want to win, but tons of players on league lack the ability to comprehend the fact that people make mistakes and arent perfect, this can happen even just a few minutes after they themselves failed spectacularly. It is the fact they are annonymous that they feel like they can rage

Dead Wife10/27/2014, 12:04:40 PM1 votes

I have yet try Ranked games do to alot of the attitudes I get in normal games. This game is fun with the right people I do love the /mute player option and Sadly I end up using it more than I would like to. Like was playing a beginner bot game with a friend of mine who just started to play LOL and we had this Orianna calling everyone noobs.. like no der were in a BEGINNER BOT game hehee

Young Kush Clop10/27/2014, 5:24:22 PM1 votes

That English.

Drukyul10/27/2014, 5:24:45 PM1 votes

If a rager could comprehend logic they wouldn't be a rager. The only way to fix the problem is to beat them with a stick (aka Tribunal).

Sticky Bandit10/27/2014, 7:14:05 PM1 votes

Players in the League of Legends find any reason to be toxic towards others. If it bugs you so much, just use the mute button. Your moral doesn't need to be destroyed just because one person is mean. :o

DaemonOfTheFal10/27/2014, 7:26:33 PM1 votes

If you are in a ranked game playing a champ/role you do not know, you are wrong. Also, you should ask your team if you can try out a champ you do not know, maybe they will be cool with it. No, 1 death is not feeding but it's extremely annoying if you give first blood within the first 5 mins of game. Team work is the key. If you are doing something your team is not cool with, you are not being much of a team player. I think as players we all expect a little out of our team mates.

4nth0l0gy10/28/2014, 11:14:29 AM1 votes

League has always been, and will continue to be, a game with a highly competitive mindset. It's the community, it's the significance of ranked, it's the fact the game has been around for so long that everyone expects you to be experienced, it's a million other little things. I can assure you that not everyone has that mentality, but League is definitely a game where, typically, more emphasis is placed on winning than personal enjoyment.

Xenith Circuit10/28/2014, 5:37:33 PM1 votes

I will remind you that there is a tribunal system (inb4 loltribunaldoesntwork) that is designed for players to identify toxic players and report them for their unsportsmanlike behavior. You are encouraged to do this as much as possible whenever you have a negative player experience.

I will also remind you that there is a mute button. Yes, I know. It's frustrating to have to use a mute button and break down communication on your team. But it's been proven that your performance only continues to grow worse as you are harassed. If a player can't offer you any constructive criticism, then you have no business talking to them and they should be muted.

That being said, sometimes people really aren't being grumps or jerks. Sometimes, players will offer you constructive, realistic criticism in the game. For instance:

"Don't go out alone." "Ward the river." "Ward your lane." "Stop chasing kills" "Group and fight as a team" "Focus on farm." "Stay at tower."

If players head you this advice, and you refuse to take it and you still end up falling behind and doing poorly, they will get frustrated. And rightly so. Now, don't mistake me. This does not give a player a license to begin verbally harassing or abusing you. League of Legends is a highly competitive game and some people use normal blind and draft to practice their teamwork coordination for use in ranked. People would rather not try things out in ranked because it could result in lost ranking if it doesn't work out well. This is why some people appear to take normals more seriously than others.

My final thought: Ragers and flamers are everywhere. Your best weapons against them are to mute and report. Usually, however, what I find is that a lot of players who engage in this kind of negative behavior are actually insecure about their own performance in the game or their ability to work as a team. A lot of players feel that if they do not start flaming the feeder or calling out peoples' mistakes, then they will get looked at as the feeder or "noob." It's a psychological mentality of "They won't possibly think I'm bad because I'm calling everyone else bad!" This is flawed, juvenile logic at best but it exists in this community. Riot has stated time and time again they want to leave it to the community to gauge for themselves what behavior is acceptable and what is not. That's why it's up to us as a community to stress the tools available to you against these types of negative players and demonstrate that a toxic, unsportsmanlike environment will not be tolerated on the fields of justice.

PL5510/26/2014, 11:20:08 PM1 votes

What I hate the most is people rage at me in normal games. I remember once I chose to play Karthus support, and all I got in champion select was "gg" "report Karthus bronze troll". Even after we won lane (pretty convincingly I might add), I was still getting harassed by people saying "says the karthus support" (I kinda laughed at that since I was higher level and more kill than the person who said it). I also won the game and I was getting hate in post game match facts even though I got the second most gold and most kill participation.

Fluffymangusta10/27/2014, 12:21:42 AM1 votes

what I find hilarious is when people to busting out "oh bronze scrub" or "not even 30" like that matters in normals. More then enough times I've had people try to insult me by telling me my account level like, "yeahh I know?" Bad games happen but people get extreme, 3 kills is feeding, being counter picked makes you bad etc. You just have to learn to ignore em.

xVaseFullofAcidx10/27/2014, 12:42:06 AM1 votes

Me personally sure of course i like the competitive aspect in this game, but I also want to have fun. No matter what happens in the game I always say gg, and every time if we did bad people feel the need to criticize me for it, saying things like how can you say that we sucked and blah blah blah. I simply tell them no matter the outcome of the game Im not a sore loser and im not a cocky winner. I feel like I am one of the few who realize that not everyone is going to be up to the same speed you are because 1. they are new to the champ 2. practicing to get better or 3. Just having a rough day I know ive had my share. If i notice someone having a hard time I ask whats going on and always try to help in any way I can. Whether it be item advice, skill lvling or leaving my lane to help them get the kill so they can get items. I will admit I do lose my cool at times, but its to those people who think they are better then everyone else and feel cursing and going off on someone is going to fix the game. If you are really as great as you are proclaiming to be give advice not yell at people. I have found some great friendly people to play with who feel as I do and we always have a great time playing together win or lose. I just wish the majority of this community didnt take it as seriously as they do, it is a game and nothings going to happen to you if you lose. And the whole playing bot games sure you get and idea of items you need and what your skills do, but as said before they are too predictable. No bot game will ever prepare you for a real game against real people. Another thing that i dont nessicarily enjoy is people going off on someone for an unconvential pick ie. I had a lee sin supp once and you know what i say good for them trying something new and we didnt do half bad in lane either, but it seemed like everyone in the team had something bad to say about it. If you know you can do the role with whoever you pick then I say more power to you. I dont judge id rather have and unconvetional champ some where they dont normally go and rocking it then someone picking someone just because they are pressured into using a conventional champ they arent too great with because thats the norm. I say to all the nice and helpful players in the community continue doing what you do because its with people like us that make other players want to continue to play this game. :)

NoMonku10/27/2014, 12:55:59 AM1 votes

The ultimate counter I have is the mute button :D. Or as usually my lane mechanics are the thing that sucks, I do fine when teamfights happen. I just go into any mode besides ranked basically expecting to learn(ranked you can learn from too, but you usually do it more because you want to rise). Any mode works well for practice and to learn from your experience. The fact that people in normals for some reason expect "perfect" performances is stupid and you can ignore them. If they want to be that hardcore, they should go play ranked and be toxic with all the other people in there. Do your best to learn what you can because losing actually makes it really easy to do that as you learn more from losing then winning for the most part. Also it helps alleviate pressure on yourself to not make mistakes as you can't really do any WORSE besides losing, so you can experiment more and play with things a little bit more recklessly.

Viralximpulse10/27/2014, 3:07:49 AM1 votes

nice flame post. Reported

Bjerkson10/27/2014, 3:54:15 AM1 votes

Exactly how i feel! I'm trying to learn other lanes and the such because I main support and in ranked, a lot of people call support when I pair with them. So I went into a normal's match trying to learn Kog'Maw (who was gifted to me) and my support judged me for being a lvl 30 Silver who can't ADC. Everyone else on the team was fine with it and we still won, but my support was being such an asshole the whole time I would miss 1 or 2 minions or couldn't secure a kill because I was OOM. Seriously pissed me off.

Glaceon10/27/2014, 4:09:46 AM1 votes

usually if you ask them to fight you in real life they back off. try that instead.

Kalerian10/27/2014, 4:48:37 AM1 votes

http://i.imgur.com/4w1lrzZ.jpg

This is the answer to your question.

hu peechee10/27/2014, 5:09:32 AM1 votes

I don't get people that rage in normals... If you want to be so tryhard, PLAY RANKED. Normals is for learning new champs or having fun with lower/higher elo friends.

Source: normals elo ~bronze, ranked elo gold 5