Veigar and Nasus- Balanced Or Unbalanced?

Wreckord·3/2/2017, 3:41:24 AM·2 votes·1,973 views

As many people knew, there are a couple champions in game that can infinitely collect status. Veigar ,Thresh ,Nasus ,Sion . Are they broken? As many of you know, the longer the game, the strong they will become compared to other champions at the same stage. Two of the most complained champions - Veigar and Nasus . Well here's why - Veigar can infinitely collect stacks by hitting his Q, W, E, on champions, get kills, or last hit minions with his Q. The longer the match, the strong he'll become. So late game he will dominate if you don't have enough MR, because of his easy to land "zoning" E, and his executing ultimate. Thereforth in elo such as Bronze, Silver, where people have no idea how to split push, take objectives etc.. Veigar will have huge advantage once he passes the "OOM" stage.(Out of Mana) His stun is almost always up(About 4 second CD or less if you have lots of CDR). If his stun lands, his other spells will also land and that gives him a quiet decent of stacks. ADC classes do not build much Magic Resist thereforth they could get easily stunned, then deleted by Veigar. That is also the reason why people hate Veigar so much. Basically all you have to do is to build mana, tank, and damage. item 3041 item 3089 item 3165 pretty much sums up the 3 above, maybe sometimes add in a item 3027 earlier in the game so get tanky and more mana. Now, talking about Nasus . What's different about Nasus is that he's tanky, unlike Veigar Also instead of stun, he has been granted the ability to give extreme slow on his enemy that increases over time. Normally you would see him on top lane because he is, a very, very strong lane pusher. All you have to do is to wait it out, get stacks under your own turret(In low Elo, I do understand that in higher elos people know how to use strats to freeze, push, shove etc ) Basically playing Nasus is just a waiting game. The more you play him, the better you know him and the better you'll get at him. His damage is hybrid, that's fine because normally you would go full tank Nasus incase you get kited or deleted before you can do anything. Because you have no hard CC. But what's really cancerous about Nasus is his Q, a short CD spell that empowers your next AA, and if the unit dies due to your AA, you gain permanent damage on your Q. Well you see, farming as Nasus isn't a hard thing. Right now theres alot of items that give heavy tank and plently of mana at the same time. item 3025 item 3110 etc. When you go in, your ulti's bonus health, armor, and MR can tank for all the damage the enemy laner do to you, and normally you can out trade them. Especially under ganks, you can just go in and get double kills because of - Passive. Where you get increased lifesteal that's like a maxed out warlords. Which is pretty bull when it comes to your Q, since it's an onhit ability, you gain health and also it could crit(Get that 1% crit runes just because :^)) Thresh and Sion are champions that the stacking isn't as power as the other two. Even in 1 hour games, you could be pretty tanky and do some damage over time but it's still useless because the both of them can't help much infront of lethality and armor ignore. -Darius Yasuo Camille Well, in lower elo, they can't really be recognized as "Broken"(Completely my personal idea, so don't get pissed off <3) Because it is possible for them to get kited or outplayed late game. The 60+ second respawn timer is enough for your team to finish off the other team and get some objectives down/Take baron or elder drake. Summing up, they can't really be counted as "Broken" just because if they snowball late game, they do burst damage. There are plently of video clips that can prove that even fed Nasus and Veigar don't do damage because of the tank buffs recently (Items) Thank you :3

8 Comments

Handy Sandy 3/2/2017, 3:46:38 AM4 votes

They are balanced. End of discussion.

rtbf2216514123/2/2017, 4:18:08 AM2 votes

It's not so much they are broken.

On one hand: they get rewarded for farming with more than just gold for however long the game lasts. Those stats will eventually become another item in itself. However, this can be debated on how much time it takes, for example, thresh to stack so much armor that he should sell one of his armor items and just get MR or something else. I'd like to see this.

On the other hand: the indefinite stacking should be taken out. That way we have less people farming and more people helping defend/attack lanes with the team. Also, a team won't be punished for going even with an opponent or an opponent turtling so well, the game reverses.

Borkahn3/2/2017, 3:59:06 AM1 votes

Nasus isn't as bad a problem because he can be peeled. And don't get me wrong, you can catch a veigar out, but out of all the champs you listed, veigar would be the biggest problem because of the range. Thresh barely gains armor with the souls so he isn't really a terrible threat. And as for Sion, as much as I love the guy, 6k hp may make me a tanky motherfucker but I'll still fall maybe 4 seconds later if the enemy team plays it right.

xI Kirito lx3/2/2017, 4:44:32 AM1 votes

Veigar is broken, more for his executing ult and AOE stun. The AP stacking on him is nice, but it honestly just helps him curve well. Seriously, try tank veigar sometime. It's a beautiful thing going against a Syndra with 2k health and 120mr at 13- min.

Nasus can be kited. He can one-shot anyone, but if he can't get close enough... it doesn't mean much.

Ironically, referencing low elo, I've seen people say Nasus and Veigar are the most OP things ever. People still think Nasus has a good late game.

Joxcab3/4/2017, 3:40:02 PM1 votes

They are completely balanced.