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This game will always revolve around the ADC

Velthios·6/24/2017, 4:58:41 AM·11 votes·1,102 views

The ADC is and always will be the most important role in the game. It's really noticeable this patch with ADCs basically also being tanks with things like DD/PD/Tabi and Knights Vow/Redemption on supps, but it has been this way for a while. After all, there's a reason that every game needs an ADC. They even have an entire role dedicated to getting them fed so they can wreck a whole team, minion waves, and turrets with mostly a right click.

Assassins are probably the most complained about class, yet they're 100% needed to deal with the massive, overbearing threat of the ADC. I only say this because I personally hate assassins so much as a class, but I totally understand their role in the game, which is to delete the REAL threat: ADCs.

Almost every game is decided by which bot lane does better. The whole "JUNGLE OP" and "CLOWN FIESTA BOTLANE LOL" stuff only came to be because constantly ganking bot assures a victory. This is both because dragon is very strong and because the more fed your ADC, the more likely you are to win. Late game, many ADCs can 2v5 with just their support. So getting that one champion fed is simply the smartest thing to do.

Is this truly the only way league can exist? With the omnipresent ADC Gods in every game, making sure nobody is allowed to touch them? I know there was a small period of Ziggs bot and honestly I was ok with it. Except for the tower cheese, but towers being weak is another thing altogether,

So anyway I'm kinda ranting but, what are others thoughts? Are ADCs oppressive? Are you tired of them? Would you like to see more of other roles? Or do you think they're fine? Balanced but over represented maybe? Let me (and RIOT!) know.

13 Comments

Bronze Demon6/24/2017, 5:29:06 AM9 votes

INTRODUCE TURN RATE.

BUFF ASSASSINS TO ASSASSINATE AGAIN instead of this dumb timed crap.

If ADCs dont want to get deleted in 1 second then buy defense. YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. You wanna continue to do damage? Then face the threat of assassins. You want to survive? Then reduce your damage.

ADCs are the most entitled, spoiled, and selfish role. Now even jungle and top has to build for them, just to try to win games. They've dominated the scene for 6 seasons now. It's time for a change.

Kyunsei6/24/2017, 6:45:47 AM6 votes

They simply dish too much damage too soon in the game (20~25 minutes). I feel like mage or assassin simply can't keep up with ADC as carry role.

And I really think something should be done to reduce ADC impact as a whole, every other role got variety, except bot.

Shablagoo6/24/2017, 3:51:24 PM3 votes

I dont get why ppl use the five man gank bot lane as some sort of justification to say that adc are weak, it literally proves how much more important bot is. No other lane has the much pressure being put into it every game. It not only is to give you team a possible tower or dragon, but to make the enemy adc have to play catch up. If the enemy adc free farms, doesnt die often or gets kills, they are a threat for the entire game. And its so sad that GA is how it is now, it just reinforces that adc's get what they want, dmg and defense, why is every other class forced to give up dmg to survive except for adc's?

Sire Hippington6/24/2017, 6:10:03 PM2 votes

I really dislike the game resolveing around adc, just as much as i hate adc resolveing that much around rightclicking and praying to RNG-sus(I'm probably one of the few that really loved the lethality times as it finaly took RNG from botlane)

I think it's really bad that the game resolves that much around adc beeing gods. It's always been that way to some extend, but things have gotten WAY worse over the last few seasons. Back in S2, ADC were lategame powerhouses and you already had adc as mandatory part of any composition, but they weren't as oppresive. You could have high impact with other roles and even carry early/mid as adc really were rather weak in the early-mid, and even come to lategame, they were alot more vulnerable and melees had an easier time dealing with them as tank items actually scaled into late and anto tank mechanics were much less common ontop of adc beeing generally a bit weaker and haveing less absurd support as we have right now. Back in S2, if i got the jump on an adc as shyvana in the late, he would die. Now he usually kites/draintanks me rather easily. It feels like only very few champs that aren't adc actually have a lategame fantasy, and thats horrible.

Now there will probably alot people saying that strong adc with their absurd damage are needed so games don't go for ever. However, other mobas like HotS proof that this is not the case. Currently, i prefer HotS over Legue, something that i not though possible back in S4 when i first played it, not because HotS has become a better game since then(which it did), but mostly becuase LoL has become so much worse since then. In HotS, all Heroes have a valid lategame, tanks scale as good as DDs, melee carry comps work as well as ranged ones, teamcomps without ADC are viable, And ADC in HotS are way less powerfull than in league, doing less damage and haveing not even half of the personal safety. Yet they still get played and are viable.

xelaker6/24/2017, 5:24:33 AM2 votes

they're fine imo. Mages or tanks can easily be just as bad. I've seen my fair share of amumu's, nigh invincible, wrecking teams by his sheer existence next to them. Or that 17/2 ori launching a thermonuclear missile disguised as a ball. A fed assassin will omnom an adc up as well, think a good fizz or kat. In some aspects adcs have very little power when behind or not properly supported.

people like to think about the adc that went 23/8/5 but neglect to mention the other adc is 7/8/4

Chembaron Yamada6/24/2017, 5:33:38 AM2 votes

Marksmen are fine in my opinion. It is right that they have a key role, especially in the late game being the highest dps. But there are many subclasses besides assassins, who are pretty much dedicated to take out key targets (which the ADC definitely is).

Divers, Burst Mages, Skirmishers, Artillery Mages.... they are capable of doing this. My champion pool includes alot of divers and I never really have a problem taking out the enemy ADC.

Daddy Ants6/24/2017, 11:56:24 AM2 votes

Fizz Akali Talon Zed Katarina are more than capable of 1 shotting an ADC if they get even the slightest bit ahead.

Aimléss6/24/2017, 6:33:21 PM1 votes

ADC's

Pros: Deals most DPS. Largest Damage Role in Team Fights. Long Ranged. Great utilizer of Life Steal. Great at seiging and melting towers. Great for mowing down objectives like Baron. Great at damaging tanks

Cons: Inability to 1 v 1 any non support champions for 75% of the game with even gold. Most require a front-line, plus outside sources of cc/peel in order to be effective in team fights. NO HP in build/limited mr and armor. Support reliant for the majority of the game. Very susceptible to tower dives. Inability to split push Tabis counters them hard early game.