@Riot Fearless

_"I won’t comment too much on 8.10 directly, as we’re very early and I’m not overly involved in monitoring those changes right now. I will say that it’s rather expected that junglers will not enjoy changes that did target reducing their early influence on lanes. We’re asking players to relearn timings and strategies that feed directly into their window of greatest power. Delaying that window, changing the power dynamics, and requiring players to experiment and learn new things are all painful for a lot of players.

I can say that we did anticipate this. No one working on these changes was new to changing the jungle, or did these changes without quite a bit of testing. Sometimes, we have to fix large enough problems that we have to be comfortable with these sorts of costs. I would ask,to anyone unhappy about these changes, be constructive. We want to understand the impacts more than anyone, and despite all our internal testing, we can never compete with the information we get in our first day of live, not to mention the actual patch week. We’re scrambling to take in as much as we can, to read player reactions wherever we can find them, because we want to make this game as good as we can make it. The personal attacks can be really draining, the circle jerking uninformative, and the down voting points of disagreement just means that we get even less value from some communities where we’d really like to engage.

I know this is mostly shouting into the void, but better than being quiet, I guess. "_

"It's rather expected that junglers will not enjoy changes that did target reducing their early influence on lanes."

NO. That's not what we're all frustrated about. We're all frustrated over the fact that it forces us to influence lanes MORE - by that, we mean everybody has to come do a god damn toe-shimmy around the thing because otherwise their jungler eats ass for the rest of the game. It forces us further out of our jungle, because with how long camps take to respawn + the XP being lowered so severely, we HAVE to stay near lanes in order to stay relevant. We HAVE to leech XP, and overall hurt our laners, in order to exist. You're actually KILLING the jungle. I understand what you WANT to do, but you're going about it very poorly, and achieving the exact opposite result. PLEASE lower the spawn time on camps. PLEASE stop making our entire map empty by the 4 minute mark. PLEASE stop FORCING us to go and fuck with the lanes, or force the lanes to come fuck with us, because that's causing all these complaints about so much jungler interactivity.

MAKE THE JUNGLE CAMPS SPAWN SOONER AND YOU'LL SEE JUNGLERS LESS INCLINED TO BABYSIT A LANE FOR 5 MINUTES.