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Aatrox is a champion that needs a rework/chance/buff as soon as possible

MrVon 0·10/23/2015, 10:08:31 AM·12 votes·955 views

Lets take darius (even thou he is very over powered at the moment ) for example he has better base stats, scales harder, deals more dmg, heals more, has a bigger impact in team fights, has a better 1v1. Doesn't have cap closer easily kaited. Can build full tank with one dmg item that makes him tankier, scales with cdr. (Both Aatrox and Darius can split push and fight 1v1, but darius also can team fight Aatrox can as well but darius is better at it and he is better in a 1v1 situation because he can go full tank and deal more dmg than a Aatrox can)

Aatrox has better early, weaker mid and late game. Doesn't have passive armor shred, doesn't scale with cdr, is heavily reliant on aa do to dmg and heal. Gets shut down with cc, aa slows, armor, ignite, grievous wounds, has a interruptible short cap closer with long wind up and high hp cost, long cd, and a knock up.

Revive that is less than useful. Because lets say you get ganked and the enemy gets you to 0 hp and your passive pop and you revive and they don't tower dive you good right you survived no it's not good

  1. you could have survived if you would have had better base stats that scaled better
  2. you come back to lane have way less pressure because you have no revive, you have to play more carefuly
  3. Ganking you will be more easy coz no revive
  4. Lets say you are in a 1v1 fight and don't have ignite but a tp your passive gets poped you go to your stasis mode and enemy got rely low as well a) enemy runs away he comes ahead i the fight because you lost your passive and he lost nothing b) he kills you if he has a stun or some smg ability because you lost all your aa speed boost from your blood well and you don't gain that much hp back c) enemy does a massive mistake and stayed to fight you with 100 hp you win the fight probably if they don't have a stun and burst, when you revive your w resets so you have to stack it again so you can't heal right after or do the bonus dmg.
  5. in a team fight your passive gets poped your team loses the fight you die, lets say you had some other passive and better base stats you could fight longer but your team lost the fight anyway you still die. Same result except in one of the fight you got to fought longer (the one with no revive passive and better stats) you would have had better chances of winning. Because once you come out of your revive state you pose little threat compared to when your had your revive available.

Revive should be used on champions who do most of their damage with abilities and are burst champions not fighter who take time to do their damage.

In Aatoxes case especially because he loses all the aa speed boost from the revive and suffers because of the revive he bad base stats and awful scaling on his stats and abilities.

This was just his passive the entire kit needs chances not a complete new set of abilities but chances to the current ones. Some ideas on that can be found here.

15 Comments

Drive By Max10/23/2015, 1:11:48 PM3 votes

Wall of text that I don't feel like reading completely. Comparing him to Darius is just a bad comparison. They do different roles, and Darius isn't balanced at all right now.

Aatrox does have a gap closer by the way. Honestly, I think he's fairly balanced. He can do well if played right, but you aren't going to instawin with him. He's one of the champions that is balanced to me. I've seen aatrox's do well in lane and get shut down late game. I've seen them do well in lane and wreck face late game. I've seen them do bad and still be relevant late game. It's just a matter of how he is played.

He isn't Darius, don't compare him as such.

fééd l0rd10/23/2015, 1:18:17 PM3 votes

riot already stated that something isnt okay with him. guess we should just wait for preseason..

Titanium707/6/2016, 12:23:52 PM2 votes

When they announced Aatrox and his Lore, I expected a Melee Support,Fighter - who's not forced to Bot-Lane. You know, just the guy who can do this:

On the day of their final confrontation, the Protectorate army found themselves outnumbered, exhausted, and poorly equipped. They braced for inevitable defeat.

Just when all hope seemed lost, Aatrox appeared among the ranks of the Protectorate. With but a few words, he urged the soldiers to fight to the last before throwing himself into battle. His presence inspired the desperate warriors. At first, they could only watch in awe as this unknown hero cleaved through their enemies, his body and blade moving in unison as if one being. Soon, the warriors found themselves imbued with a potent thirst for battle. They followed Aatrox into the fray, each fighting with the furious strength of ten until they had won a most unlikely victory.

I was really exited about such a Champ! Because I like playing Supportive Champions!

And then I've read his Kit... ... ... ... [zombie-brand-facepalm]

@OP: As you can see I'm clearly Pro-Aatrox-Rework as well, but I have an completely different approach. =P

Drive By Max10/23/2015, 4:44:51 PM1 votes

You know why I didn't read your post? Because it's a wall of text. It hurts to look at. I don't believe you know how to read. You said to take a look at Darius. This is a comparison. You took one of the most broken champions right now, and compared it to someone who is balanced. He is a duelist, he is strong in 1v1 situations. Yeah, there are champs that can shut him down, but that should be the case for any balanced champion.

He spends his health on his skills, big woop, he also gains that back really fast. Vlad's pool takes 20% of current health, are you going to say he is imbalanced as well?

His kit is currently centered around his W, and he is a fighter. His Q jumps on someone and knocks them up, allowing more w procs. His E does some damage and slows, allowing him to stick to people better, therefore more w procs. His ult increases AA speed and does some damage, increasing his AA range at that, making it harder to escape him.

You said that dps fighters are beat out by burst, well yeah, that's how they work. Not every champion is burst. Champions typically have a "bursty" skill, doesn't mean they are burst. You aren't even taking into account the items he builds, you're assuming he is itemless in your post. Build a Bork on him, his damage increases significantly, and he gets healing per hit. Add a frozen mallet, he can now stick to anyone.

And you keep assuming his passive just means he dies or is a loss in a trade, and here's the thing, that isn't true at all. His passive does more than a revive, he gets Attack speed for having points in his pool. A revive basically gives him a second chance at life. You can use low health coupled with the passive to bait people. Oh you're in a teamfight and you die? Well, now you're reviving, and the enemy team has to decide who to worry about, the dps you're about to do to their team again, or your team mates. At max level, you can get about 1200 health from the revive.

You're only looking at the negatives of his passive, don't do that when there's a lot more to it than just a, Oh I hit 0 life, I can now get up and possibly die again. It's an extra chance at life. You might as well say zilean's ult, Guardian angel, or anivia's passive are the same, "It's just a revive, it means nothing" right? NO.

You're literally just naming off bad qualities of his kit instead of actually looking at what he can do.