Great so Urgot going to get another indirect nerf cause Ryze and Cass are overpowered champions

ValiantKiller·12/3/2019, 11:43:15 PM·26 votes·12,619 views

Yet another nerf to Conquer ranged effect on "Ranged " champions who belong to them somehow and for some reason when he played like melee most of the game phase.

And all of that cause Conquer allow abilities of champions to stack 2 instead of one, so ranged abuser like and can abuse it but ofcourse we got to nerf the Conquer healing effect on ranged champions and cut more knees of who already is struggling to stay over 50% winrate with his low play rate.

Why he isn't getting any buff or life quality changes in trade of all indirect nerfs he taking on his maybe the only most used rune ?

97 Comments

WoonStruck12/3/2019, 11:50:31 PM31 votes

Urgot being strong because Conqueror is strong isnt a good thing.

If he needs buffs, he needs ACTUAL buffs, not indirect ones.

Hes doing fine btw. The nerf will probably barely affect him outside of instances that probably should have been nerfed anyway.

Welcome to why the new rune system is shit design btw.

Kazekiba12/4/2019, 12:03:42 AM8 votes

Same reason Kogmaw didn't get buffed when Kaisa killed Rageblade

Eedat12/4/2019, 12:25:41 AM7 votes

Ryze and Cass? Practically every champ that can use it takes it right now lol

5050BS12/4/2019, 12:03:07 AM6 votes

Urgot attacks should be flagged as Melee and Ranged for advantages.

He should be able to use all Melee Only items as well as all Ranged only weapons.

hazerddex12/3/2019, 11:45:30 PM4 votes

i understnad Ryze being op, but Cassiopeia ? she's been irreverent for a while now till the conq change actually happened. I've not seen her in a single game last season.

Pierce The Veal12/4/2019, 12:32:45 PM3 votes

Honestly I find it pretty dumb as well.

Just because Ryze, Heimerdinger, Casseiopeia, and a few other ranged champions abuse it too well doesn’t mean it should be nerfed for everyone else.

The worst part is many of these abusers WERE ALREADY too strong before conqueror. Nerfing conqueror for all ranged champions that might take it is silly when all of the abusers were already problematic champions.

The worst part is the nerfed conqueror will actually be worse than old conqueror. Easier to stack, but objectively worse. Why? You ask? Old conqueror healed MORE (because its healing was unaffected by resists) while also increasing your damage via true damage.

Maybe we should JUST nerf the major conqueror abusers, see how that goes, THEN consider nerfing conqueror further. As it stands conqueror on most of its users (and not abusers) is something that is niche or has alternatives.

Arammus12/4/2019, 1:31:33 AM2 votes

yo i dont wanna be that guy, but urgot struggling? thats ONLY because of hyper mobile champs who he cant ever hit.

the dude tends to get 200 armor or mr, 3k hp about 200-300 ad and does a big amount of % hp. imo urgot is a fucking beast who can 1v1 pretty much anyone.

invisiblecat112/4/2019, 3:24:31 AM2 votes

What? Urgot has 52%+ winrate is most ranks Not to mention he stacks it even faster than cass and ryze because of his permanent W And, unlikely Ryze and Cass, can build Death's Dance