Why does Riot employ the HAMMER approach to balance?

ofart·3/8/2017, 3:29:49 AM·15 votes·1,165 views

Are you guys intentionally rotating OP picks rather than actually trying to reach something closer to objective balance? Why is there this huge disconnect between balance and what you do? For example, Corki needed some nerfs (maybe lower base damage on R early, some CD increase on W etc.) but instead he's hit by a massive R nerf which makes him a terrible pick for either ADC or Mid. Now, LB also needs some nerfs but she's hit by a huge swing of the nerf hammer with both her ratios and base damages crippled on W. Some changes, like nerfs to AP Kog on the same patch as the Rylai's nerf seemingly come out of nowhere. The reverse happens too. For example, the buff to Lethality while simultaneously buffing items didn't lead to a surprising result when champions like Kha'Zix (who was already strong) were untouched that patch. Now, on the other hand, I think Edge of Night might even have been hit a tad too hard but that's a separate discussion.

Even to someone who isn't paid to balance the game, it's incredibly obvious that this is NOT correct or logical if you want a game with diversity and fairness. Why is there so often this garbage or god tier dichotomy in how Riot balances? You guys release a patch every two weeks so such an ungranulated approach is bizarre and nonsensical to me. It's actually really frustrating and makes it hard to grow attached to and invest in popular champions.

BTW: I don't even play LB and I can still see this will lead to a 45% winrate at best. Even before the Corki nerfs, I predicted 47% winrate at most and was pretty much spot on. I realize that average winrates are meaningless and only games by experienced players can shed light on the power of a champion but in both cases it seems way too severe. I can come up with dozens of other similar examples too.

10 Comments

WoonStruck3/8/2017, 6:33:54 AM3 votes

LoL has the weakest balance team I can think of among high-profile games.

They give love taps to everything, and its hardly ever enough.

SaltyKracka3/8/2017, 3:49:00 AM2 votes

They as much as said that they were taking the hammer to LB for now. They don't care if she's trash, they just want her to stop being god for long enough to figure out what to do with her.

Thistlemin3/8/2017, 5:08:49 AM2 votes

LB fit in the same space as old Kassadin. Too much lockdown for how much flash spam and slippery they are. They may need to rework some of her abilities so she isn't just balanced on a knife's edge. That's kind of the issue with a hard cc one-trick 100 to 0 flash nuker. Either they nuke everyone before they can retaliate or the nuker can't finish the jobs and she doesn't do enough aoe to be worth her spot in a lineup.

CannabisOverlord3/8/2017, 3:39:15 AM1 votes

I personally feel its to keep that god/trash balance, you get champs that do horrible, but then you get champs that will wreck an entire team so people get all WOW Thats amazing yada yada

Kyunsei3/8/2017, 11:10:05 AM1 votes

LB 45% winrate ? You underestimate the power of wave clear.

Golden Tager X3/8/2017, 5:31:37 PM1 votes

Well it is Ghostcrawler so I most certainly wouldn't put it past them to have things take turns, but I am at least gonna wait until all class updates are done before I go judging them too harshly.

Matake3/9/2017, 9:30:28 AM1 votes

i was going to make a thread about this but decided not to because it would get downvoted to oblivion

rito could learn something from my psychiatrist

"SMALL CHANGES"

"GRADUAL CHANGES"

"ONE SMALL STEP AT A TIME"

if you change too many things at once you will never know where you went wrong and you are doomed to repeat the problem

seriously though rito could definitely benefit from psychiatry because these buffs/nerfs are definitely look bipolar (trust me i know i've been diagnosed)