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Legitamate questions on how to get better. Ranked Silver 5 now.

Archangel Wolff·7/14/2016, 4:56:06 PM·2 votes·539 views

So a lot of videos and guides i watch on how to get better basically all give you the same "steps"

  • Find your playstyle
  • Find your champ
  • Spam them in ranked

What i dont understand is how this helps us improve? For example. Im an adc main. I picked up vayne around level 22 and have played her ever since. Mechanicaly im decent with her, not the best but i can hold my own. I can kite well and am decent at positioning. Fairly good at the role in my opinion. Yet, when i spam vayne in ranked we often lose due to things i cant control.

Alot of higher elo players, bash low elo, "for a unwillingness to improve" yet when we ask how to carry low elo, they say if u cant carry it your bad. How can i carry when:

  • My support feeds my lane. A lot of people say this is why we are bad cause we blame the support. Yet this meta revolves around early game strength, which is why a lot of champs build ghost blade first because it gives that lane phase power spike. So say im playing vs a lucian who is strong early with GB and my support gives him early kills so now he has ghos tblade at level 4. What do i do ? cant survive lane phase because they are so much stronger, jungler usually wont gank due to the support dying or not helping, and by the time lane phase ends and i try to farm, i either get focused 2 or more v1 or my team ffs.

  • Playing from behind. Say im playing lux mid. My jungler tries to gank and dies 3 times to my lane. The enemy mid is now halfway into a 2nd item and i havent finished my first one yet. Do i continue to build dmg? Do i go full def? Generally when this happens if im against an ap champ ill build abysall. Normally by the time ive gotten it completed they already have void staff. So now the little magic resist i got doesn't do anything and they still have a ridiculous lead. What to do ?

  • Other lanes feed. Say im vayne bot doing decent in lane. Decent farm. Nothing really going on. Then i check the scoreboard and our mid laner fed a khazix 6 kills. So now he just camps wherever i am and one shots me with a q because hes fed and im squishy. What do i do ? Do i get GA and just die after i respawn? Stay with the team, who usually wont group at this point. FF?

I understand the reasoning behind if you don't belong there then you wont stay there. But im not saying i don't belong in silver. I just want to know how to get better so that i can get out of silver.

Id appreciate any help i can get, thanks for taking time to view this :)

7 Comments

Tormentula7/14/2016, 5:02:08 PM1 votes

Carrying doesn't mean 1v5 the enemy team and solo win the game. It means not being one of the reasons why your team is losing and set up win contions with wards and picks.

Overall, getting better is done by not getting worse. You're not going to go from silver 5 to gold 5 overnight (that I know personally..) but you'll get there as you make better decision making for your team. If you play vayne, you're already mechanically good just don't do anything you know you can't handle or can make the game harder on your team.

Just keep in mind you can't win them all. If you're the only one doing well and can't basically 1v5 them, don't let it bother you, but its worth a try.

Mig897/14/2016, 5:31:07 PM1 votes

Sometimes it's the luck of the draw when it comes to teammates. The high ELO players say to focus on yourself because if you are improving, the luck factor needed to win is smaller. It will never go away and nobody has a 100% winrate.

  • Sometimes the support knows when to engage and if you don't follow up and they die, it is on you somewhat. As support, they should be watching for ganks and knowing when an enemy's abilities are on cooldown. As a support main myself, having adc's who dont engage properly or back out properly has led me to play support who is better for peeling or one i can just spam poke. It still comes down to luck of the draw at some point.

  • Going down two kills early in midlane is your own fault and focusing on improving is the only way to get better. Learn to freeze the wave close to your tower and hope your jg knows when to ganke. If they are failing ganks, you can't put the blame on them. Know what angle they are going to be taking to engage your mid and set it up better. Getting a gank and just burning the enemy summoner spells is a win in and of itself. With a champ like lux, You have to know how to kite and poke. Building MR on her isnt optimal and abyssals passive is almost worthless if you're playing her right.

  • If it takes you checking the scoreboard to know your midlaner is down 0/6 then you just got unlucky enough to have a midlaner who is that bad. That being said, you could have helped him before he got the third death.

I main support and since i started focusing on doing the little things that win games, i've climbed to gold promos. I ward more, build what counters the enemy, get as much utility as i can squeeze out of a champ, and ive done much better. My winrat is still a joke but ive been winning mucc more than ive been losing. Playing supports like zyra leona and soraka at this ELO helps. You can influence more of the match this way. I dont think anyone is good enough to carry 100% of their games but all you can do is grind it out and play the odds.

DREADN0UGHT7/14/2016, 5:36:04 PM1 votes

-Learn how to control lane -Learn how to trade properly -Learn how to rotate past laning phase -Learn how to pressure map -Learn to have confidence in your plays. Hesitation is the enemy -Learn to cs properly/farm efficiently -Ward/vision control. Learn it -Play as many champs possible to learn matchups and mechanics -Be humble and accept the fact that you don't know much

Go on internet and learn. Don't wanna sound like a sellout, but skill-capped is pretty fucking good. You pay 8 bucks a month for it, but its quality.

Azure Hamster7/14/2016, 5:41:38 PM1 votes

The number 1 thing that helped me advance to Silver 3 was this:

Don't die. I know that sounds silly, but it informs a lot of gameplay decisions. Don't overextend. Don't wander through your jungle alone if you don't have vision in the area. Don't face-check bushes. Most importantly for ADC, if your opponents get a double kill on you, they're now ahead, and diving in to get a kill to make up for it is not how to approach it.

Once you get behind, you should now only engage if you see them make a mistake. Get your CS, keep up as best you can. Players who are ahead may get overconfident, and make a mistake you can punish.

If you look at Vayne's win-rate-by-game-length curve, you can see she gains advantage as the game drags on. You are in no hurry to win, you want to bide your time and start dominating later.

http://champion.gg/champion/Vayne

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Archangel Wolff7/15/2016, 4:43:40 PM1 votes

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