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Evelynn gameplay problems (Eve main)

darroll·7/20/2019, 3:39:14 PM·1 votes·1,433 views

Hi, let me introduce myself. I am a jungler main, and Evelynn is one of my favorites champions. I think Evelynn has some problems : She is very frustrating for ennemies, and also some mecanics are... Annoying for the Eve player himself. So I wanted to discuss about her.

Keep in mind that this is just my personnal opinion, as an Evelynn player. And excuse me in advance for my bad english, it's not my native language.

Gameplay problems One of the worst things on Eve when you play her is her E. More precisely, the dash on her empowered E. Let me explain : Important note : the empowered E doesn't increase the spell range or anything like that, it just increases it's damage and make Eve dash toward her target.

  • You can't use your empowered E at all if you're rooted or grounded (Morgana's Q or Cassio's W for example). BUT if you already used it and have your non empowered E, you can use it...
  • If you take a CC that can cancel dashs when you use it, such as Maokai's Q or Gragas E, you WILL NOT deal any damage, while the non empowered one will deal damage even if you take a cc during it's cast.

The one that is supposed to be better actually, a significant part of the time, feels more like a constraint. This is very stupid imo. If at least, you could use it even while rooted or grounded like Illaoi who can W when she is close enough (and thus not dashing). But it's not the case for Eve. And also, if the E damages on the main target component was separate from the dash, and so even if you take a hard CC while performing it would still deal the damages on the main target, it would be great.

Or, if you don't want to do that... Simply remove the dash. For me it would still be a buff. The only bad things about removing the dash is the slight AOE that it provides and the ability to follow someone's flash. You don't really need to be so close to the target that she could literrally accuse you of sexual assault.

Another problem on Eve is her Q auto target. If you didn't hit your first Q (or for example if you killed the target with it, if he goes out of range and you want to focus another ennemy...), the following recasts will go on the lowest health champion in range. I find it very stupid, and a lot of time it makes me miss a kill just because my Q did not go on the target I wanted, the target I wanted to kill and so to which I was going. For example, Ahri's and Zoe's W target the closest ennemy champion if they haven't attacked one. I think Eve's Q should work the same way.

Strength problems And, a big problem with this champ is that she probably has the worst pre lvl 6 of the game, right after Kassadin, but in exchange she cas basically delete anyone in one second past 25/30 min (if she didn't get fed early on). Including tanks. This combined with her invisibility makes her very frustrating for ennemies. Past 3 or 4 items she can litterally 3 shot any carry with just Q E Q. When full build she can one combo tanks that have 2 MR items and 4500 HP. Is it really normal for an assassin? (her W reduces the target's MR by 35% (and so also incrases the damages of your AP allies) and with 800 AP her E does 24% of the target maximum health) She has no base damages but very good AP ratios, and so she's useless in early but a monster in late game.

What I propose :

  • Slightly reduce her AP ratios, especially on the % max HP on E. In exchange, add some damage when she lands her charm. So it will be more difficult for her to 3 shot carries at 25 min without even needing to use her W. Maybe reduce a little bit the MR reduction, 35% at lvl 13 is a little bit too much imo and makes her one of the best (if not the best) tankbusters in the game.
  • Also, increase slightly her base damage, mostly in early game (particularly on champions because her jungle clear is fast enough), because apart from the 1 second charm you really feel like a minion before lvl 6, and even at this lvl you have to get AP to really deal some damages.
  • Change her Q auto target priority from "lowest HP ennemy champion" to "closest ennemy champion".
  • And make the empowered E usable even if she's rooted/grounded and separate the damages on the main target from the dash, or simply remove the dash.

Thank you for reading, give me your opinion on this especially if you main Evelynn.

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8 Comments

QuM1tSuk3 YT7/20/2019, 3:56:46 PM1 votes

Well, as an Eve hater. I would recommend making her a normal a champion that's just like Zed which can't oneshot tanks. I just hate everytime she just W E Q me when I'm Rhaast and kills me before I even smite R her. And her R need to just damage not go behind because that bullshit makes her unkillable. She can just R an adc and go back and he's dead.

figold6667/20/2019, 4:19:06 PM1 votes
  1. OMG how did you do the colored labels? They are so pretty.
  2. Agree with you 100% on your changes. While not an Eve main, I also like to play Eve. I find that even if I die once, twice or even 3 times in the early game, the minute I get Lich Bane I can start one-shotting the ADC.
Crystalysk7/20/2019, 10:03:34 PM1 votes

Dude, Eve is not bad pre 6, people just spreading this legend. She is not top tier but can pull off some good early ganks.

I get first blood on Eve almost every game. And people simply don’t know how to play versus her. People never build early magic defense against her and that’s why she has good snowball potential. People don’t buy enough control wards, actually only 1 out of 10 games enemy team buys a pink to place behind when they are sieging. Any form of cc negates her as she just explodes the moment she is not able to move.

This meta filled with assassins and squiscy targets is perfect for her since she is good into those champions. If, let’s say, people pick all assassins and squiscy into Eve then they cannot babyrage.

She is supposed to be good into those comps and she is most likely not focusing the only tank the enemy team has.

EDIT: btw if she cant assassinate anyone without charm past 25 she is going to be useless in fights. And she already can't oneshot without W or R unless she's got fed early game.