Removing champs?

Tmoose·5/8/2015, 6:17:15 PM·21 votes·2,467 views

A lot of people talk about how a champion should be removed, and I just never think it would happen. Imo there would be a much more negative response than positive to removing a champ.

For example:Teemo

Even though I hate the little asshole I don't think he should be removed from the game. Just honestly try to imagine him being gone, and imagine the little, teeny tiny place in your heart that he holds

I don't think the rito gods would ever do such a thing

43 Comments

TheRakkun5/8/2015, 6:22:52 PM25 votes

The only champ I would EVER argue needs to be removed is probably Kalista (WHY DOES THIS DEMON EXIST)

PhoenixSlayer135/8/2015, 8:31:03 PM7 votes

Riot would never label it as a removal, but in some cases this has been done. It's basically a 100% rework. Look at old Sion compared to new, or old Karma compared to new. There are a few similarities here and there, but they're basically new champions with their old versions removed from the game.

Whether you agree with that kind of removal or not, I won't get into. Just saying Riot's kinda removed champions already.

My Desired Name5/8/2015, 10:15:11 PM6 votes

Teemo is balanced.

Kalista, on the other hand..............

willcarry4gold5/9/2015, 12:00:48 AM4 votes

Heimerdinger so you WOULDN'T like it if he was removed? I hate this asshole he's not even fun.

xNejiix5/9/2015, 1:35:15 AM4 votes

Won't ever happen. It'd be both a financial & PR disaster - other than pleasing a few angry pisspots, nobody would gain anything from it.

First off, all the work that was put into that champion - designing them, balancing, programming, testing, Q&A, etc - would be completely wasted. The playerbase of that champion would be supremely pissed, and it's not a good message toward the guys who made the champion either. They also can't just delete content that was paid for. Aside from any potential legal issues, the amount of player backlash would be immense - People would be hesitant to spend RP for multiple reasons, and the bad publicity would just really hurt them in the long run. So they'd have to reimburse everyone who has bought the champion and any of his skins, which would cost them a metric fuckton of money - and setting that up would probably also require a lot of work, since you can't just send out X refund tokens to everyone.

And it's not like they need to; if they really don't want a champion in the game, they can just nerf him into unplayability. They did so in the past, more than once; one of the biggest examples is the old Eve, who was allowed to be shit and trollpick material for years. Still a scummy move, but much more subtle; the only real downside is angering the playerbase of that champion, but otherwise it's nowhere as bad. And people will still buy them & their skins occasionally, and definitely after a rework.

The only time they would do this probably would be immediately after release; and both Riots internal testing & the PBE would have to drop the ball really, really, reaaaaaally bad. Azir's release was problematic, but to warrant this, it would have to be 100x worse.

Big Bang Bob5/9/2015, 12:09:27 AM3 votes

Kassadin item 3070

Rand0mH3r0X5/8/2015, 8:49:16 PM3 votes

We could have Bard gone. He won't be missed.

Athenes Lulu5/9/2015, 8:25:05 AM3 votes

They actually did. It's called 5.4 Veigar.

Somehow Rito found a way to recover that deleted champ from the game back in 5.5.

:^)

Rinky Dinky5/8/2015, 8:59:03 PM3 votes

Only champion who should be removed is Kalista

I mean, her Idea is cool, but just like all the other champs released during the lore meltdown, her story is total shit and brings nothing new at all.

She could disappear and nothing would change other than better game experience. She brings nothing but annoying gameplay.

Bard also would impact nothing if he disappeared. He brings nothing into the lore universe either. He has a fun kit, but has no idenity as a champion. I would even go as far to include RekSai . There are just no stories or anything to go along with these champions to make them matter.

Gnar I suppose is an exception because we can get a general idea of who he is and how others feel about him through his perosona and the art riot release, and its obvious people love gnar, but these other 4? They have no personality, no lore, no distinction.

Azir and Gnar are the only new champions who have felt like they actually exist in the game universe. The rest feel like they are just characters on the rift. That is B A D

The Bíg Ticket5/8/2015, 10:17:28 PM2 votes

Riven and Nidalee

Riven Nidalee

Very Hard Engage5/8/2015, 10:28:13 PM2 votes

Fizz Kalista Leblanc Teemo Vi Zed gave me cancer

It Hertz When IP5/8/2015, 10:11:20 PM2 votes

It would certainly help out the balance team.

Jalkan5/10/2015, 12:08:59 AM2 votes

Sion Old Sion was basically removed when he was reworked.

Sooko5/10/2015, 3:37:38 PM1 votes

If Riot would delete someone, it would be Yorick, regardless of community feedback. Yorick is the ultimate champion that Riot hates. I mean, sure, he is kind of balanced now (even got a buff recently, I was surprised), but I am sure most people at the Riot HQ would rather if Yorick did not exist. He just feels like a champion who got frozen in time. Rare changes, no new skins, few bugfixes, and few mentions in balance discussions, not to mention the removal from the champion rotation.

But I don't really think they ever will. With so many champions being gamebreakingly powerful or underpowered on their release, and the policy of "we'll just watch for now and then change if necessary", they usually manage to just try to fix their mistakes through nerfs or buffs (some so powerful they even "delete" champions from the game, by making no one pick them Veigar Zilean Yorick )

Unless CertainlyT goes **reeeeaally ** wild (like, IDK, but it must be something that makes even Yasuo and Zed underpowered and jealous), I don't see champions being deleted.

Mat7itan5/8/2015, 6:35:20 PM1 votes

The problem with removing any champ is that there are people that probably play/main that champ. If you remove a champ you ruin the game for those people.

Program Morgana5/8/2015, 6:37:00 PM1 votes

The other issue about champions being removed is riot will have to reimburse RP or IP used to buy the champ and skins so say teemo that is about 50 dollars of rp they need to give to someone who owns him and every skin.

Biffolo5/8/2015, 11:40:13 PM1 votes

My only champ I wouldn't care if she got removed is nidalee. Just a big fucking pain in the ass to deal with. Not op, but nothing near enjoyable to be against or with.

Heckin Support5/9/2015, 1:29:01 AM1 votes

Zed LeeSin Tryndamere Riven Thresh

Aaravos5/9/2015, 7:30:55 AM1 votes

i would be happy if they removeYasuo (not so strong but fustrating as hell) Darius and Kalista from the game together with their creator. Also it would be nice to replace Riven with Omen.I wouldn't mind if Nidalee goes as well.

Occams Raiser5/9/2015, 2:31:24 PM1 votes

This is a nonstarter. There is no need to remove or even talk about removing. It's not like it would be for easing the load on your computer.

minro45/10/2015, 3:45:53 AM1 votes

gj smartass you realized its no fun to delete content

Yatsufuså5/10/2015, 3:57:26 AM1 votes

Urgot rekts Kalista because she can't innate away from his Corrosive'd Acid Hunter. I mean, she CAN Innate his Corrosive Charge, but it's not that hard to land it.

r11na5/10/2015, 12:40:38 PM1 votes

Poppy is essentially being removed and just replaced with a different character of the same name and model.

Riot just call it a 'Rework'.

Godaren5/8/2015, 6:21:33 PM1 votes

I would hate if the champion everyone picked to troll in my ranked games were removed. I doubt they would ever remove champions though mains would get to upset.