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Ivern, Shaco or Nidalee

EternalFrostFire·8/23/2017, 9:26:06 PM·1 votes·588 views

I mainly play support or mid and I am looking for a champion to fit my tastes in the jungle role, for when I am bored with support or mid.

As of now, I want to choose a champion to save up to, I don't have enough ip for any of them, and it will probably take me a very long time if I want to buy all three of them.

So guys, who do you think I should choose, not based too much on viability, but of course a champion being strong is always a plus.

I think I might enjoy Ivern because of his enchanter playstyle which I am very accustomed to due to playing support often, but I fear he might get boring because of his boring early game.

I think I might enjoy Shaco because of his stealth and boxes. Both these features, with good box placement give him a global presence. The mind games are also very interesting and fun, tilting people is a bonus. I'm kinda worried about how hard he falls off and how he plays when behind.

I really like Nidalee's kit, it's spears and heals are really satisfying for me, because it caters to the enchanter playstyle I like to dabble in, and the mid laner artillery mage playstyle which I also enjoy. The bushwhack gives her some vision and a decent presence across the map. Clearing jungle is also always a fun challenge. The main thing putting me off her, is how reliable she is. How does one gank if they miss a spear? Additionally, her teamfight presence is also very dependent on hitting spears. Often, when the enemy is hit by a spear, unless it was concealed by terrain for a part of its journey, I feel like they walked into the spear for it to hit because of how slow it is, with its hitbox being mediocre.

6 Comments

Sp33d Zer08/23/2017, 9:32:46 PM2 votes

Right off the bat I would say Ivern. He is a support playstyle in the jungle which immediately fits what you like. But Nunu could also be a really good pick up.

I don't think nidalee would be a great pick up for you because she requires so much constant mechanical upkeep to play at a proficient level.

CaptainSeto8/23/2017, 9:42:09 PM2 votes

"Ivern's early game might get boring." Depends on elo. At low Elo's people tend to be a bit dumber and not watch the camp their jungler isn't taking when an Ivern is in the game. I know, I play Ivern a lot. However, never assume your enemy is dumb. Otherwise you can walk into a bush and become first blood to the ADC and Support. Typically, his early involves that super early invade to take the buff the enemy isn't taking(smite it of course, so you don't risk losing it), then take your two buffs. Mark the other camps, recall, clear, take a scuttle with smite, then gank. Ivern's camp clear method means you'll be spending most of your time as your team's roaming support, spending any time not marking camps(Including your enemy's buffs) ganking, or applying pressure. Level 6 is most certainly when your playstyle will change up, allowing you to be more aggressive, but I've found a very good use for an early daisy play.

Ivern is very busy once team fights start. If he's not marking camps to keep an income, he's with his team spamming his shields, roots, and bushes whenever you need to take a turret, as the increased range allows the tanks/daisy to take the brunt while you are slightly safer if the enemy goes to push you away. He's going to have a lot of actives and support items, Redemp being the main one. Late game, Daisy will be up very often, so if the game is in a slower pace, or most of the team is completely steamrolling and applying tons of pressure to mid, Ivern can be a very threatening split pusher. His shield will allow her to take a lot of turret shots, and if you aren't stopped by the enemy team you'll take two turrets most of the time.

Now, my little Daisy play I often make early. It's simple, soloing dragon. If I know the enemy jungler is dead, or in the top lane I'll take daisy with me to the dragon, set up my bushes, and start taking it. If you do it right, Daisy will die when the dragon is about 1300-1500 health, but if you keep the bushes up around you and shield yourself just right, you should get it low enough for a smite safely. I'll normally have Tracker's Knife and most, if not all of redemp(always my second item not counting boots), so I'd say you'd be alright. If you really want some safety during a solo, and you have redemp complete, use it on the dragon and daisy. It'll heal her up nice and good, and that burn damage makes the dragon slightly faster to take.

But yeah, just playing him as you would a support who just so happens to free camps tends to be an alright way to play him. His early game is slow if the enemy doesn't know what Ivern does, and tense if they do(as they'll watch you good), so I can understand the worry of him getting boring. The only time I've ever regretted getting him though was when a game went south because we lacked the damage to do much.