Can we talk about Smite, and Jungle?

Illıum·7/11/2018, 2:21:55 AM·4 votes·3,801 views

This post is 100% inspired by a game I just played as Zac in the jungle, where I forgot to take smite. I'm a support player who got autofilled jungle and you know what, I forgot to change it. Let me tell you, it was not good, not good at all. Every camp was able to kill me without the assistance of my team mates. By 7 minutes I had been able to successfully kill my red once and my blue once, but I was still level 1. By 12 minutes I'd hit level 2 and when the game ended with our 5 man surrender vote at 17 minutes I had climbed to level 7, gotten one kill, and had a bami's cinder and a bramble vest (because for the love of god I needed that area damage for the camps).

Now yes, there are things I could have done better looking back on it, leeched xp from a lane, or maybe made something happen level 1 and picked up a kill. I was even told in game that it would have been better if I had just left the game, dodge, take the penalty, let them remake and you know I had to agree with him, but by that time it was already too late.

There were a number of compounding factors that lead to my abysmal performance that game, the lead of them i believe is the bonus xp that junglers usually receive from having smite and their item, they can hit level 2 off the first buff, move on to another camp with 2 abilities and clear it much much easier. The second was the lack of DoT and healing from the jungle item which I was unable to buy since it requires the smite summoner spell.

I know, yes, I'm awful and I should git gud. But aside from me being garbage, I think it's ridiculous that the success or failure of a role relies so entirely on having a specific summoner spell. It would be like saying that toplane simply cannot succeed without having teleport, or that in order to win mid you absolutely must take the arcane comet rune. I'm not trying to make excuses for how that game turned out, but I would love to see junglers at least have the option to take a summoner spell other than smite. Having it be so essential seems to me that it's overly restrictive in playstyle, and far-FAR too punishing to the occasional person who forgets to swap.

7 Comments

ForFoxSakes7/11/2018, 3:34:00 AM2 votes

Ive only ever forgotten smite once in mutliple seasons but I'm a jg main. When that happens I alt F4 in the loading screen and allow my team to remake and eat a leaver penalty

Illıum7/11/2018, 2:29:39 AM1 votes

I could have done that, but then I would give that laner a distinct xp disadvantage. If they're a 'sour' player then it's likely they would have flamed, and when the enemy jungler inevitably turned up we'd be in a fight where both of them would have more gold and more xp than us. A very difficult fight to win.

Illıum7/11/2018, 2:31:09 AM1 votes

Whatever I did with the situation it would have been bad, set my laners behind, or else be set behind myself. I don't know which is the best course, and I decided to at least not mess up their lanes.

KlydeFrog7/11/2018, 2:23:48 AM1 votes

What you do is just go top or mid and play supp.

nGio7/11/2018, 8:12:44 AM1 votes

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This post is 100% inspired by a game I just played as Zac in the jungle

Well there's your first problem.

Paroe7/11/2018, 8:20:28 AM1 votes

@thread

The jungle is 100% balanced around the jungler having smite. Its a stupid thing and needs to be changed, or at least jungle items be unlocked so it doesnt brick a game so much.

PapaGreg217/11/2018, 2:41:39 AM1 votes

I feel for you man. I have done that as well and life is hard without smite in that jungle with just about any champ.