Riot dictating how to play your own game?

Alpha Danger·6/8/2017, 1:00:58 AM·3 votes·718 views

Playing a game like League of Legends, especially in normal matches, is purely recreational and not to be taken seriously like real life relationships or work. Riot Games wants supports in the bot lane, which makes roaming and actually supported your whole team impossible. No where in the client or game does it say that support has to stick to bot lane the whole "laning phase" which isn't explained in the game either. I got reported for trolling as support in normal draft for being filled to support, playing the only champion I knew how to play that's not a carry, and roaming because bot lane was being toxic to me and it was tough all around being bot lane the whole time. I didn't completely abandon my Bot though. I just hope I don't get banned because I'm not good enough of a player to play by dictation of a company that owns a free to play recreational moba. I don't have a problem with all the riot employees, just the ones that want to dictate where support is in their game, even though they're not the ones playing. I want to make my OWN decisions in a free to play game please. Thank you!

57 Comments

ƒrostγ6/8/2017, 1:12:58 AM3 votes

If you get autofilled to supp, then play fcking supp and don't ruin the game for your whole team.

Warhammer Titan6/8/2017, 1:02:46 AM2 votes

You have to reliaze if you just leave your marksman you are ruining their game. They will be forced to 2v1 bot lane, get shoved in the entire time, get tower dove, get both their towers taken, and then you lose the game because your adc is now useless because an adc needs items to scale. Sure you can be an asshole and roam but I suggest you dont

Alpha Danger6/8/2017, 1:47:12 AM2 votes

You guys take this game WAY too seriously

Shadòw6/8/2017, 1:03:58 AM1 votes

the fck?

where did Riot ever say that you have to stay bot as support?

that report won't do nothing anyway.

Frightning6/8/2017, 1:28:22 AM1 votes

The reason the support typically goes bottom lane with another person who farms the lane is a matter of what constitutes an effective lane-phase strategy. Typically the bot lane farmer (usually a marksman, but doesn't actually have to be a marksman) is a champion with strong scaling with itemization, and the support usually has a strong early game and synergy with nearby allies. Most of the (champion) xp and gold you earn over the course of a game of LoL is earned from minions and/or monsters, as such, it is wise to spend most of your time, especially earlier on, in the presence of enemy minions or killing monsters (enemy minions grant xp as long as you're near them when they die, but jungle monsters only grant xp to their killer). The jungle only provides enough monsters to fully support 1 champion, and since xp is only granted for kills, you wouldn't get xp being in the jungle if you aren't the one killing the monsters, so the jungle position can only realistically support 1 champion per team.

That leaves 4 other champions and 3 lanes.

Because minion xp/champ is lower the more champs in a lane, and because no xp is given to anyone on your team for enemy minion deaths that aren't near one of your team's champions, the natural optimization to max xp and gold gained is to have a 1-1-2 split, with one lane having 2 champions and the others one each. So then the question becomes who should pair up and duo a lane, and which lane should be duoed?

The answer basically comes down to: -Who suffers the least from getting less xp? -Who has the best synergy with teammates?

Marksman aren't significantly affected by being behind in xp because most of their power comes from basic attacks which primarily scale with itemization, and supports are generally the most synergistic with teammates. The support not farming minions is advantageous because support kits typically are effective even without much if any stats to back them up, utility scales with CDR and not really anything else, and the other bot laner is usually a champion with strong itemization scaling, hence your team is, overall, stronger when the other bot laner gets as much of the gold as is practical.

So why is the duo usually bot? This is partly historical, before Rift Herald was invented, Baron was the only objective on top side of the map, and it didn't even spawn until 25 minutes in (lowered to 20 a long time ago, but in the beginning it was 25), hence the only important neutral objective was on the bottom side of the map, hence it was advantageous to have the duo in bot lane so that up to 4 of your team's champions were near enough to respond quickly to that objective, so the need or opportunity arise. It's only been with the rework that Rift Herald has become as impactful as first Dragon (the stats show about a 70% win rate for the team that takes either of them first), but a while earlier. Many pro teams had opted into the lane-swap meta as a way of accelerating the game and avoiding a potentially bad 2v2 lane matchup. This style of play was allowed for several season, and the NA in particular became famous for using it in most of their games. Riot eventually decided that it would be better for the game to have a further incentive to run standard lanes (it's a long discussion to examine all of the whys and hows), and made top tower have resistance to champion damage early on in the game, but bot tower does not. This asymmetry is the main reason standard lanes prevail in pro play today, as it's generally regarded as no longer worthwhile to swap your duo lane to top lane, as you are liable to lose first tower before the team that didn't swap.

Putting all of that together, it becomes pretty clear why the meta is what it is: Most of it is just good strategy, and there aren't many ways to innovate on most of it. (Some things, such as who goes bot to farm, and such have room for some innovation, but most of it is pretty decidedly better than the alternatives).

Cocho6/8/2017, 1:32:02 AM1 votes

I hate this argument the most.

Do you understand how terrible it is to 2v1 as the ADC? You cannot. The ADC will fall behind most of the time. They will likely lose their tower 1st.

The support not being in the bot lane is also deciding how the ADC will play. They will literally have 0 impact early, even in their own lane, by the time they are at 1 item, the game has been decided for them. They dont get to play league of legends.