Hexdrinker passive is overpowered in all honesty

infinyx·12/30/2015, 11:24:43 PM·18 votes·1,807 views

Hexdrinker in it's current state makes an ap vs ad assasin matchup unwinnable for the ap. A 1350 costing item that not only gives damage and mr but a passive that blocks 250 magic damage for free. I can play an ap assassin and kill a zed 1v1 but the moment he buys a hexdrinker it is almost impossible for me to duel him. I have to wait for over 3000 gold to buy a zhonyas which basically prolongs my death by 2.5 seconds anyway. and on top of that when they complete the maw they got ARMOR PENETRATION as well as the shield increasing to over 300, as well as giving them bonus ATTACK SPEED AND LIFESTEAL.

22 Comments

Hayaishi212/30/2015, 11:28:18 PM5 votes

As overpowered as Zhonyas.

AVL Prince12/31/2015, 1:11:51 AM3 votes

what are you all talking about

Hexdrinker is worse than Zhonya's in every way, because they are literally different tiers of items.

Maw equals Zhonya's in terms of effectiveness against AP/AD (or should. Maw has a bit of an advantage because zhonyas isn't in a good place right now, but that difference is not substantial). That's the point - they're both meant to counter the opposite archetype of champion.

Hexdrinker equals Seekers in effectiveness. You all seem to be ignoring the 1200 gold item that gives what, 40 AP and 35 armor? Compared to the Hexdrinker that gives only 20 AD and 35 MR for a higher price. The effectiveness of the (roughly 160~ in lane) shield evens out the clear stat discrepancy in items. That means when the passive is down (and its down for 90 seconds, which is a clear window if opportunity) hexdrinker is quite clearly outclassed.

I know it can be frustrating to lose a matchup because your opponent built smart, but identifying and attacking one variable out of many is silly. Casters often have many advantages over their AD counterparts you aren't taking into account, so even if the AD counterpart was, and this is just a hypothetical as it really isn't, better than it's AP equivalent, that wouldn't necessarily constitute a problem. All things have context.

magic pole12/31/2015, 3:01:42 AM2 votes

did someone lose to a zed today

Bonipherus12/31/2015, 12:45:08 AM1 votes

I think this speaks more toward the state of ap items in all honesty

Cindikle12/31/2015, 1:26:54 AM1 votes

I don't think it's overpowered. But it is for sure strong.

I don't really think it's the real problem though. Hourglass for most mages hurts them as a rush buy. A lot of them need that mana regen. An AD really doesn't suffer as much. It's a very strong rush buy because of the price.

If armguard didn't hurt to much to buy so early, there wouldn't be a problem. Giving it a Doran's Ring like mana return o CS could fix this.

Renascent12/31/2015, 1:51:03 AM1 votes

Can't believe nobody corrected the OP that Hexdrinker is no longer 250 magic damage shield at all times, but a 110-280 shield depending on level.

Still, it is amazing how effective it is at countering AP matchups.

FrickendaChicken12/31/2015, 2:40:59 AM1 votes

Don't purchase a Zhonya's get some Penetration-like the component of a Liandry's Torment. And instead of trying to duel the opponent (Which is what an assassin wants, and the exact opposite of what a mage wants-in most circumstances) Try to play a bit safer and just poke them down. Once you can get past the shield with a full rotation of abilities, then you can win.

You have to look at the shield as extra health- that's the power of a shield, it gives temporary health that can give you the duration of life you need to finish off an opponent. Which is generally why a lot of champs who do sustained damage have a shield. AKA TANKS.

Hot Cousin12/31/2015, 2:53:34 AM1 votes

I agree with this sentiment.

Catastrop12/31/2015, 2:55:55 AM1 votes

Hexdrinker doesn't give a flat amount anymore. It's 110-280 based on level.

Timely Voidling12/31/2015, 12:38:45 AM1 votes

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