New jungle is unplayable

Buffalo of Lies·11/22/2014, 3:41:21 PM·2 votes·1,177 views

I don't get what the deal is. It's not enough that you jacked up the strength of minions to ridiculous levels and only let me take 2 health potions. Now I have to recall after every two camps to heal and twiddle my thumbs when I get back because the camps haven't respawned and smite is still on cooldown.

Half the time, I can't even kill minions when I have enough health because I got counter jungled and all my camps are gone.

So it seems like this patch was really about pushing counter-jungling as a strategy and making sure only high-damage output champs like warwick can still clear lanes. You didn't REDUCE the power of junglers like Lee Sin and Rengar, you just made OTHER junglers worse.

12 Comments

Brotha11/22/2014, 3:47:39 PM2 votes

I can play Jayce in the jungle effectively, step your game up.

Seriously, work on your stutter stepping and start at a camp you know you can clear. 3 Camps -> upgrade machete and pots -> farm/gank

Half the time, I can't even kill minions when I have enough health because I got counter jungled and all my camps are gone.

You're acknowledging better junglers are clearing camps that you cannot.

EDIT: LOl'd @ high dmg output Warwick. He has innate lifesteal + sustain on q coupled with an attack speed steroid that's what keeps him alive in the jungle and why he's so strong right now.

Rebonack11/22/2014, 5:03:54 PM2 votes

For the life of me I can't figure out what these people who are saying jungle is impossible are doing wrong.

I can hit level 3 on Jungle Kog'maw before my first back for heaven's sake. If you're having a ton of trouble start on Briarback and smite him, he'll heal you for 20% of your max HP. If you're still low after that go molest a Scuttlecrab to get some vision, wait for Smite, and heal up a little more before killing Krugs and then Gromp.

Cerbearus11/22/2014, 4:00:20 PM1 votes

If I can play TF in the jungle effectively, I don't see why you are having problems with others. You just need to be choosy about what you smite and make sure you take good runes and masteries. The jungle feels about at the level it was in season 1 where you couldn't just slap a monster and it would die.

Duke Anax11/22/2014, 5:21:33 PM1 votes

There is just one flaw to your argument:

If you have a problem with counter jungling, that obviously means your opponent doesn't have a problem with counter jungling.

Kuroi8611/22/2014, 8:16:16 PM1 votes

Warwick High damage output... falls over laughing xD

You can either farm hard, or gank hard, you can't do both anymore.

KzooCrasher11/22/2014, 4:01:31 PM1 votes

Umm if it were about counter jungling they wouldn't have made the counter jungling item shit and the aoe clearing item amazing....

1Rival11/22/2014, 3:48:59 PM1 votes

What champs are you using? The new jungle isn't about farming the jungle, Riot wants you in the lanes ganking or in the enemy jungle looking for trouble.