The new matchmaking

beermanfu·10/25/2018, 8:10:09 PM·24 votes·10,619 views

No rant. No tilt, behave.

I think your matchmaking needs some work. I am a bronze level player, barely silver. I should not be facing a plat mid lane Akali. I don't care if it's normals, I'm trying to practice, not get destroyed.

Thank you for your time.

20 Comments

DeathBurst10/26/2018, 3:19:26 PM4 votes

The problem with Normals is a big one, and I feel you, but it has nothing to do with the new match-making. It's a problem as old as LoL, and you could always play against players from wildly different skill brackets in Normals. And if anything, the new matchmaking should improve the situation a little, but time will tell.

The trick is, in Ranked, people play their best, and they really grind, they are always working at their peak performance or close to it, with very little variance, so MMR is an accurate metrics. For example, an ADC main won't suddenly start playing Jungle in Ranked.

On the other hand, the average performance measured by MMR in Normals has a much bigger variance. People DO swap position randomly in Normals, they DO pick champs they are bad with AND champs they are super good with, and it's super hard to evaluate properly at what level someone will play in Normals before the match starts (which is when the match-making need to do it). Not to mention that most people who are highly ranked don't play as much in Normals, so the system simply has less data to work with.

I'll take my own example to illustrate. I'm a Garen one-trick, and I'm high Gold with Garen. I played a lot of Top lane and Support in the past, so I'm worth a high Silver with pretty much any Tank/Juggernaut and a couple Enchanters. And I'm probably something along the line of a mid Silver ADC/high Bronze Assassin. I know all of that because I see how I play, I know myself, and I can compare my performances between the different roles. And for Ranked, I do only play Garen so the system also knows that I'm a high Gold player, I'm currently Gold 2 with +21/-18 average LP gains. But for Normals, I play a little bit of everything, and so the system considers me as an average Silver player. Which, on average, IS true. If I play Kayn jungle, and I am matched against a Silver Lee Sin, they might complain like you "I shouldn't be matched against a Gold 2 player", but I'm not Gold2 with Kayn, and the matchmaking worked correctly, nothing wrong with it. But what happens if I suddenly play Garen in Normals? The system still sees me as an average Silver player and I will stomp. And that's bad (and I try to avoid doing that, for the sake of everyone involved), but what can the poor matchmaking do about it?

Krytoric10/26/2018, 12:33:11 AM2 votes

Normals dont adjust for mmr at all, and i dont think they should. They just throw people into a game to play lol.

ZaFishbone10/26/2018, 7:50:27 AM2 votes

The problem with normals is that, because MMR is calculated separately from ranked, someone who tryhards in ranked for several months, then comes back to normals will have their old MMR but much higher skill.

Support Position10/26/2018, 7:59:14 AM2 votes

Been saying this for 2 years :/ no upvotes. Riot don't care either :/ "just put it on the boards."

Quiet Dude10/25/2018, 8:10:54 PM2 votes

Normals has different MMR than ranked. Your normal MMR is probably the same as that plat. Itll adjust in time.

General Matty10/26/2018, 12:38:44 PM2 votes

The fact that it was an Akali makes it even worse.

Sleep On Stream10/26/2018, 12:54:04 PM2 votes

yeah it needs changing !!!!!!!!

Skeletons Grave10/26/2018, 10:25:15 PM1 votes

Not a problem that can be fixed. High elo players have low elo friends and the way to play with them is normals. Even if the plat player has plat mmr in normals, when u add 2-4 bronze/ silver players then there is a good chance the plat player is gonna be versing someone way lower elo then them. But its also possible his bronze friends are matched against people higher elo then them.

Trust me it gets to a point where the plat player has to actually start trying and playing champs/roles they are good at if the team wants a chance to win.

PopcornBunni10/26/2018, 4:58:05 AM1 votes

Presumably the positional matching will be applied to normals as well, right? So long as you queue in draft instead of blind.

Noor Sakata10/26/2018, 6:54:49 PM1 votes

Ok but , honestly how will you know and be better if you don't face stronger players ? personally I started playing the game in season 7 , I got placed in Silver 5 and every time I got matched against a plat or gold player , I was just like , Bring it on , and actually won my lane and stuff slowly started facing even diamond players , and in tournaments I even faced challenger players here , Now I'm in plat , and still gonna climb next season I mean , to learn the game more , you really need to face better players and learn from them And if you got stomped by a plat Akali , that's a champion problem not rank

I mean , I'm plat , if but I'm Lux or Syndra , Even a Bronze/Silver Akali can stomp me

iDarkWind10/26/2018, 11:41:02 AM1 votes

Have you stopped to think that perhaps if you want a balanced game around your level there's a thing called Ranked game that does that? I am Diamond III and if I want to play with my friends I either have to play on other Account or play normals. Of course I'll be matched against people with lower ranks, and of course that game will never be balanced or remotely close, because the disparity between skills is huge.

Leto GT10/26/2018, 8:41:34 PM1 votes

The other day I played vs a lvl28... I've almost 8k games behind me. The next game, I played vs someone two tiers above me. Good shit.