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Serious Question: How is it possible I lose 75%+ of my matches?

Harvey Rabbit·7/30/2016, 12:23:04 AM·9 votes·892 views

From what I understand, this game has a balancing mechanic where it tries to match players into approximately equal matches, so that almost all players should have a win% that approaches 50. So I don't understand how it is possible I lose 75%+ of my games? It is very frustrating.

PLEASE NOTE: I understand that I am terrible at this game. I get that. Someone better at the game could do better than me and not lose as many of those games.... But is it really possible I am basically the worst LoL player in the world??? Is it possible I am so terrible at this game that there is no tier of players awful enough for me not to lose against them most of the time? It seems impossible to me, because by any standard I am not usually the worst on my team. I always play cooperatively, try to work with the team and help as much as possible, I don't bicker with teammates or anything like that, and I always try to do the best that I can in the match. And my stats are not usually the worst for my team.

At this point I'm starting to get paranoid, like does Riot have some secret sh1t list you can get put on for mysterious reasons, to try to make you have a horrible game experience and leave? lol

I mostly only play ARAM and the special modes, does that have something to do with it? I'm not judging from a few games, but the past 40+ games I have played.

Thanks for any genuine thoughts or insights. Cheers.

26 Comments

CerealBoxOfDoom7/30/2016, 1:15:52 AM3 votes

you could exploit a mechanic to win more games and then when whatever gets nerfed you fail like mad and get nothing done

That's one way it can happen

Zerenza7/30/2016, 7:19:01 AM3 votes

First i don't think your winrate is actually 25% or lower, at the end of your normals match take your wins (shown in the ending screen with game stats near your mastery and level), and then take your looses. For example, i'v lost a lot of games lately but my losses are about 280 in normals and my wins are 300. So even though it looks like i'm just plain bad, i know that i'm not loosing 90% of my games (despite my match history for the past 20 games saying i am).

legendarytiger7/30/2016, 1:43:42 AM2 votes

speaking from personal experience: aram made me better at learning how a new champ handles and improved my ability to teamfight with a new champ, but it also made me absolutely terrible at summoners rift, for the time when i played mostly aram games.

here's why: the summoners rift meta changes, and aram doesn't help you monitor those changes very well, since it has its own meta.

as to why you lose 75% of your aram games, i think others have already answered that better than i could (aram has more to do with luck than SR) but it could also have to do with you not understanding the changes to the aram meta (particularly since the large aram patch) and being unable to properly adapt to them. i recommend reading the patch notes each patch, as these are a hint to the changes in the meta.

i hope this is helpful, and you enjoy your games, sir [slayer-jinx-wink]

Rivuo7/30/2016, 2:02:42 AM2 votes

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From what I understand, this game has a balancing mechanic where it tries to match players into approximately equal matches, so that almost all players should have a win% that approaches 50. So I don't understand how it is possible I lose 75%+ of my games? It is very frustrating.

PLEASE NOTE: I understand that I am terrible at this game. I get that. Someone better at the game could do better than me and not lose as many of those games.... But is it really possible I am basically the worst LoL player in the world??? Is it possible I am so terrible at this game that there is no tier of players awful enough for me not to lose against them most of the time? It seems impossible to me, because by any standard I am not usually the worst on my team. I always play cooperatively, try to work with the team and help as much as possible, I don't bicker with teammates or anything like that, and I always try to do the best that I can in the match. And my stats are not usually the worst for my team.

At this point I'm starting to get paranoid, like does Riot have some secret sh1t list you can get put on for mysterious reasons, to try to make you have a horrible game experience and leave? lol

I mostly only play ARAM and the special modes, does that have something to do with it? I'm not judging from a few games, but the past 40+ games I have played.

Thanks for any genuine thoughts or insights. Cheers.

if you wanna add me in the game i can maybe help you with some tips or we can play together

My username is ''Defended''

blixt antanda7/30/2016, 12:50:09 AM2 votes

When you play ARAM, it is about 25% skill and 75% luck. The team composition is almost always the reason a team wins. So if you have varus and fiddlesticks, you will win more then tryndamere and vayne. People with poke and hard cc initiators will undoubtedly win more games. And since you mostly play aram, you don't really main any champions, you just play them all, and you only get about 15 minutes to play them. Also ARAM players tend to be worse then normal games players. Besides dumb luck, there are no content creators who teach you how to play ARAM. Normal players can learn by watching videos on their champions, or just about the game in general, nobody does that for ARAM. Hopefully I helped

MagicFlyingLlama7/30/2016, 12:34:08 AM2 votes

Are you actually loosing 75% of games, or does it just_ feel _that way?

If you are playing normals, there are no stats. i suggest you keep a .txt with the stats from each game, maybe it will help you see what you are doing and your actual winrate.

Aram players tend to be pure shit, though - winning games is usually dumb luck between champs and who gets the dive-feeder AP yorick, and you wont learn anything from watching other players.

Frius7/30/2016, 7:46:41 AM2 votes

play garen

GULAG 4 U7/30/2016, 6:47:19 PM2 votes

For some reason I get queued with animals meanwhile the enemy team is somehow composed of people with much higher MMR. And I'm not diamond 1 khazix or nightbeta3 so I can't kharry them.

Beoridas7/31/2016, 2:12:09 PM1 votes

Lemme explain the system to you a little.

Lets say my true skill is gold 5 but i am silver 2. In theory, the grind should be very long since i am only very slightly better than my current ranking. If im in diamond however, I should get to Gold 5 in pretty much the same amount of games that it would take if i was winning every game.

Now the system doesnt know your skills, but it tries to assess it thru your historical performance. If you lose 50 games straight and drop to bronze 1 while your skills are still gold 5 level, then the matches should be so easy that you would storm your way back up the same way a diamond would at silver 2. Until the grind puts you back up where you belong.

Tobias Brackner7/30/2016, 9:26:24 AM1 votes

Homie, you are just that bad.

Åeolus7/30/2016, 12:18:58 PM1 votes

Something called a losing streak. I don't understand why you care tbh, you're not playing ranked. Why does it matter how much matches you win or lose? Just have fun.

RisenDarkKnight7/31/2016, 6:26:18 AM1 votes

The ARAM/special mode thing is the culprit most likely. ARAM has more to do with teamcomp than matchmaking, so it is quite possible to get bad teamcomps in ARAM 3/4 of the time for 30 games or so if you are unlucky. And if the special mode you are playing is similar to normal summoner's rift games you will have a big disadvantage versus the players that play a lot of ranked since there is a big difference between howling abyss and summoner's rift. Also, those modes have different matchmaking, so it may have placed you against harder players since the MMR is a bit different than the MMR for normal games since some people are bad at urf but good at regular 5 v 5s or ARAM.

Also, if you are not abusing the OPs in 3v3s/Dominion/URF and other people are you are at a disadvantage if you play a lot of those modes since they are not very well balanced.

Reikken7/31/2016, 6:27:55 AM1 votes

The serious answer is small sample size.

Also, 40 games isn't enough to stabilize your MMR. Over those 40 games your MMR has been dropping, but you aren't at the bottom yet.

Lugg7/31/2016, 1:46:59 PM1 votes

To be completely honest, you would have to be a pretty awful player to do that. You will win 25% of your games basically automatic due to the other team being horrible due to feeders, afks, or just plain sucking. The same will happen to your team. So you only have control over 50% of the games realistically. So you just have to win more than half of those to move up.