I was watching grossie gore and a thought occured to me. Question for a high elo strategist.

He had a weakish jungler vs a pretty smart jungler and I could sort of see how that might have deciding a lot of factors in the roaming phase of the game. I was hoping a good player would comment on my thoughts here in this thread.

Now, Grossie did a good job of wrecking his lane even though I could tell the elise was always around the corner trying to snowball the syndra (this is what grossie said would be happening as well). The game got to that really hopeful pre-mid stage where all of the lanes are looking really good, but no one even has 2 core items yet. Thats when the elise really turned things around with a surprisingly tanky syndra as bait.

It really looked like his team was falling for vision baits during roaming phase. My reason for thinking this is that there was almost always backup for the enemy team out of the fog of war whenever grossie would roam and you could just tell that there was some co-ordination working for the other team. They were always just enough to turn things around, but never enough to make grossie afraid of being in the area (esp bc of a lack of vision in own jungle). It was pretty nice to watch actually. Syndra built mr in preparation for abyssal and just baited the shit out of grossie for about a 5-10 minute period of the game where they all lost over and over. Grossie's team even traded 4-1 at one point and the enemy team made up the deficit resulting from the laning phase in huge chunks during these 2-3 skirmishes. It looked like they lost the first skirmish in the river very close to bot. The second was around dragon. The third was in mid lane and im not even sure it resulted in kills. It was more of a seige where they sort of lost due to some poke and had to back. Then they started loosing towers. The flow of the game was really fun to watch because of the way it sort of turned of of this really tanky syndra and the backup she always had.

My question is, would this have happened if the junglers were on par? Is this what a game looks like when this position is a mismatch? Thats an interesting line of thinking. Maybe games can be grouped and predicted based on mismatches sort of the way a football play can be influenced by a mismatch between a wide receiver and a linebacker.

Well. Maybe. If so, what should you do to change your play if you notice your jungler is not doing as well as he should.

On the other hand. The alternate explanation would be that lee didn’t do as well as lees should do because Elise was controlling vision and his position was very known by the other team for the entire game. So, lee did bad because of elise and the roaming phase was also bad because of elise. I guess the difference is pretty small from the previous explanation. Just that elise was able to kill two birds with one stone. It amounts to the same thing. They were just set up to loose during the roaming phase and grossie shouldnt have tried to be very aggressive during this part of the game because the vision war was lost and he should have known this because his lee had only one assist and one death at that point.

I wonder what should he have done to make this part of the game shorter and better for his team? I think he should have predicted that the roaming phase would go badly because of the lee's performance one way or another. I am also interested in what other signals you might see in a game that would predict that this or that phase would go badly.