Suggestion: Make Sylas Ult Cooldown Linked to the Ult He is Stealing

Leinardo Smith·2/28/2019, 9:47:27 PM·2 votes·1,628 views

So, I still think Sylas' ult is still super strong lane, but I think I have a solution that might work. What if throughout the game, Sylas' ult cooldown inherits it's cooldown timer from the ult he is stealing.

For instance, low cooldown ults like Jayce, Nidalee, Anivia, etc. would allow him to steal their ult use it and then a few seconds later be able to steal someone else's ult. However, if he steals Galio's ult early it will be 1min 30s before he can steal another person's ult. This would make his gameplay much more of a skill matchup instead of the urf style steal everyone's ults late game.

This also would mean that going into a teamfight, he would have to be wise about how he uses his ult (just like every other champ in the game).

I think this single change would keep him still a very strong pick and even counter pick into certain champs, but that he would not be the oppressive monster that he is right now.

Sidenote, maybe make it so that he doesn't get any after effects from using his ult? An 8k health full ap sylas after stealing cho's ult multiple times is disgusting.

Sidenote #2, maybe he should lose whoever's ult he has if he dies or gets cc'ed too much? Kinda like Kirby?

Anyways, those are my thoughts, let me know what you think.

19 Comments

Infernape2/28/2019, 9:50:05 PM6 votes

It is. Each champion has an internal cooldown that is based on 200% of the champion's ultimate cooldown.

Hijack just has a low cooldown per cast.

hrooza dota 2/28/2019, 10:09:03 PM3 votes

his ultimate is the most balanced thing about him. and most fair one.

the point of him is to turn powerful ultimate's on their owner but take note not every ulti is good on him because some ultis give buffs that are better on their users, some are meant to be spammed, and some are straight up need the passive/another ability to do its job (looking at you darius and illaoi).

so if say enemy line up is Illaoi MasterYi Yasuo Vayne Galio then he would have a bad time ulting as theres only 1 good target (assuming you dont have an insane ally knockup for yas ulti) and with the 200% cool down on stealing the same ulti it wont be ideal matchup.

the champion ultimate will completely be lose its strength points if your change is done since he just will have a rng ultimate based on match up with 0 upsides while keeping its weakness of not being up to use certain ultimate's that good unlike every other champion that have a consistence ultimate with their kit.

sorry for bad english, i hope my points are clear enough.

JuiceBoxP2/28/2019, 10:17:32 PM1 votes

Maybe read the champion's abilitiy description next time you post something like this..

Doge20202/28/2019, 10:30:32 PM1 votes

So if Sylas steals shyvana’s ult he can instantly cast his Hijack again. SHyvana’s ult doesn’t have a cooldown but it has to have a secondary bar filled out before shyvana can use Dragon’s Decent again. What you are suggesting makes it so Sylas can steal Syvana’s ult, use it then instantly steal another ult during his use of shyvana’s ult.