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How do I climb?

RazerProFX··1 votes·1,944 views

I've watched hundreds of videos with tips on how to climb out of bronze, silver or gold. But whenever I get into a ranked game my team is so toxic with each other and let each other die on purpose. Then the enemy team gets fed, aces, gets baron and ends.

I am currently Bronze 4. Last season I was Silver 5. I try to play support, because when I play the support isn't really supporting at all. But when I got support for once all the carries just get destroyed in lane. And if I go top or something (I play talon or garen top) I get extremely fed because I use those tips from the videos, but my teammates lose their lane and the enemy gets fed and I can't really 1v5 when my team dies and we lose most of the time.

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JAAAAAAAAAAAAYCE2 votes

I was D1 season 7, the advice i can give you is to main jungle Kha or Graves.

If you dont want to do that, then i see you play top lane.

With top lane, you want to harass enemy every time they go in for farm. Even if it means missing some farm, because in the end youll poke the enemy out of lane so much they wont be able to farm. Thus you get more cs than them.

Second you want to one trick a champ. Play a champ you find fun, fits your playstyle, and stick to it. For me I mained kayle first, then shen, Nasus, then finally Jayce. The first 100 games of Jayce was boring, but eventually I loved playing Jayce. Just stick to one champ that you enjoy playing and then stick with them and youll eventually build a connection with that champ to where you want to play them all the time.

Ward for jungle. Zombie wards are best top lane right now because Junglers like to camp that lane due to lack of vision from Mid lane and your jungler to help you see the enemy jungler.

Only tp bot lane when its necessary. A lot of times in low elo when you tp, your adc/support just sit under tower farming rather than engaging with you.

Use your abilities on enemy instead of farming.

When your wave is pushed to enemy tower. You have three options. Harass the enemy under his tower, go invade their jungle, or gank mid lane. You dont want to back unless you have low mana/health.

Always stay in lane for as long as possible. Every time you back, youre missing out on about 5-7 cs, and sometimes more. Thats about a few hundred gold lost because you decided to back. Instead of backing with full health/mana, go take your junglers Krugs or Gromp depending on which one is top side. Your jungler never does these, and if they do, then theyre not jungling right and you just saved them time anyways.

Dont always go for kills. When I play i focus on denying the enemy cs by harassing them nonstop, while also pushing wave and farming at the same time. 15 cs = 1 kill. And normally i like to be 40+ cs more than my opponent in lane at the 10 minute mark. Which means I have about 650 more gold than them.

RazerProFX1 votes

I used to main ADC, is that good for maining in bronze?

JAAAAAAAAAAAAYCE1 votes

Yes, adc is the second best role to play at the moment. Sadly I dont have any advice for how adc players should play, so I cant really help you there. I can tell you that the best ADC champs right now are Draven, Kaisa, Xayah, Ez, and Jhin. Never play Sivir or Ashe. Thats all I can say about adc.

IP Masquerena2 votes

Watching videos helps, but you need to make sure you watch the correct videos.

Don't watch stuff like SoloRenektonOnly, Professor Akali, Heizman, etc, those guys make vids just for views, even if they do explain occasionally what they are doing, it's just random comments because of random builds, etc.

Watch full game commentaries on champs you play. Those guys will actually explain their though process. You said you play Talon, so try watching Aatrixx on youtube. He explains why he does things and why you shoul/shouldn't do them in the same situation or when you should do them, etc.

The problem with watching videos from guys like BeChallenger is that they don't explain why stuff happens, it's just the game, so you need to realize by yourself why they are doing what they are doing, and that's not an easy task, so just doing the same thing as them will help once in a while when the stars align, or as you said, you get some kills, but can't put them to use, since you don't know what to do with the lead, while watching full gameplay commentaries will have the guy explain why he is doing it, so you know how to reproduce and when to do it, and how to abuse the lead, in what ways, and that's what's more important.

Most low elo players aren't bad because they are bad in the sense of having bad mechanics, knowledge etc, but because they don't know what to do and they don't know what they are doing wrong. I confess, I also have that problem of not knowing what I do wrong sometimes, so I asked a diamond friend to watch my games every once in a while and tell me what I did wrong, what I can improve on, etc, so the thing you need to focus now is not on how to get better, but fixing what you are doing wrong. I know that is a bit counter intuitive, so let me put it like this:

Assume you have a line which is the "base skill level", to improve, you need to raise your skill level above that line, but right now, you are bellow that line, so you first need to get to and meet the base skill level, then focus on improving. If your farm is bad, try to practice farming in practice tools.

Beside that, I guess there is just one more tip I can give you, so follow this rule: ask yourself these 4 questions, in this order, every time you want to do something:

  • How can my opponent hurt me?
  • How can I prevent that?
  • How can I hurt my opponent?
  • How can he prevent that?

I also recommend you watch videos from SkillCapped on youtube, they explain a lot of things, so maybe it will help you.

TragicEcho1 votes

Try play only 1 or 2 champ. Stop blaming your teammate and improve your own macro and micro. The more you understand about the game, the easier it is. Stop playing if you are tiltied.

TragicEcho1 votes

Don’t play support, support is really useless in bronze. Mid or jungle have the opportunity of roaming and warding. Try to play around your team and not yourself. Give kills to the late game carry if you are crashing your lane opponent etc.

RazerProFX1 votes

Most of my games, (normal games included) my team doesn't communicate, so even if I want to set up a team fight my team doesn't respond.

Akureyri1 votes

It's best if you play with a duo if you want to go up in ranks quickly because climbing alone is very hard. Once you find someone reliable, it's better to handle a team as two. Especially if you're a support. Or even find a team of 5 to play with in ranked. I tried climbing solo, and it was a slow progress. I am a support main, and I know how hard it is to try to support a dysfunctional team and unbelievably inept ADC. But the second I found a decent partner to play with it got easier. If you plan on playing support, find an ADC or Jungle duo and if you want to play top, it's best to find a jungler to play with or a mid laner so ganks would be more consistent. If you just want to play by yourself, make sure you gank and help out other lanes often if you are ahead of who you're playing against. Roam around- be a second jungler.

Good luck climbing![sg-kiko]

RazerProFX1 votes

I doubt anyone wants to play with a bronze kid LUL.

Black Jesus1 votes

Climbing in bronze/silver:

  1. Pick simple champions

  2. pick and play for the late game

  3. make your team group

xPhantomDancerX1 votes

Bronze 4. Lel.

Snowman Arc1 votes

You haven't watched enough vids then, or you haven't grasped what they tell you.

Your cs/min is horrible. 6 games on Garen with 3.3 cs/min. This means you are nowhere near to be getting fed.

Your cs numbers are horrible in all champions you play. Might wanna start with that. Another thing is that you never seem to buy boots. Like, why? Your itemization in almost all games is horrible. Abyssal Mask on Garen, for example. You also die quite a lot of times. In 6 Sona games, you averaged a 7.6 death count, which is horrible.

You really need to improve on BASIC things, like csing and itemization, for one. Just go to probuilds and see what the pros build and build that. Don't build random shit. You say you're getting extremely fed in some games, but you lose. If your cs is low, then it doesn't matter how many kills you have. Honestly, if you can't realize what small things you need to improve on, or if you can't materialize, then get yourself a coach.

RazerProFX1 votes

Thanks for the feedback, can you tell me a good average cs per min?

Snowman Arc1 votes

http://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=giorgos21cy That's my alt account. A good borderline is 8 cs/min, which means 160 cs at 20 minutes and 240 at 30. Honestly, not so hard to do, but you need to adjust your game style to get to such numbers, which means that you need to actively look for lanes to push and farm and retreat to your jungle camps and farm those as well. The game isn't just fighting and trying to kill someone all the time. You need to calm down sometimes, take your time, farm up a bit more and outpace your enemies that way.

Look at my numbers for example. 8.6 on Graves, at jungle, by the way. Jarvan jungle has 7.6 and Trist has 8.2. On this account, I have a 8.8 on Sivir.

Also, csing becomes easier as game goes on, since one ability can clear a wave easily, which means that you need to focus a lot of csing well and outpacing your enemies in the early game. It's no use having 50 cs at 15 minutes and then rotating around all lanes to get good numbers, while starving your team off CS, because it means that your team is now underfed + your early game was bad which gave enemies an advantage.

A good thing to look at is having around 75cs at 10 minutes as a laner, and about 55 as a jungler. Of course, there are situations where you are in a disadvantageous match up so you can't do that, but you at least need to try and keep a close distance.

There are many variables, but yeah, generally, try to cs better and make good use of any time you have. You pushed lane and can't do much in lane? Go to the enemy Raptors and try to kill as many as you can, before the next wave comes. Slowly create yourself a lead that the enemy doesn't have access to.

RazerProFX1 votes

Thanks

hi ìm groot1 votes

Lel @ all the people writing guides on this post XD. If you wanna climb play the game, you have 19 games played. No amount of guides or tips is going to make up for experience. Im guessin you probably placed in silver last season because it was your first season and thats how fresh accounts get placed, but if you wanna get back you have to grind. Figure out how you wanna do so along the way.

RazerProFX1 votes

I try to play more ranked, but when I get tilted (most games) I try not to play.

hi ìm groot1 votes

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I try to play more ranked, but when I get tilted (most games) I try not to play.

Then that sounds like your biggest block from climbing.

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