Can we please nerf Thresh, this is ridiculous.

Big Daddy Husk·8/21/2015, 2:20:43 AM·129 votes·8,432 views

No champion should have such an overloaded kit. I mean, why pick blitzcrank when you can just pick thresh and grab all the poros at once?

Edit: The amount of people that haven't played through the Blitzcrank poro game surprises me.

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Arcane Azmadi8/21/2015, 2:51:56 AM28 votes

OK, I can't really tell is OP is being sarcastic or not (Poros?) but whether or not he means it, he's right: Thresh is the most powerful support in the game and has been ever since his release.

He has the most absurdly overloaded kit of any support- his Lantern alone is a more powerful defensive tool than some champions entire kits, which lets your teammates play with careless abandon and screw up as much as they like and still waltz away scott free. His Q is simply the best hook of the three (him, Blitz, Nautilus)- it has better range, CD and mana cost than Blitzcranks, disables the opponent for the longest while he's dragging them in, it gives Thresh the option (unlike the others) of choosing whether or not he wants to go in and make it a hard engagement with his E and ult (how many times have you Blitz hooked an enemy Alistar, Amumu or Leona and screwed up your team?), and oh, it also lets him jump walls- Naut can't even fire his hook through walls at all! Flay is one of the most powerful and versatile CCs in the game, capable of pulling opponents in or knocking them back at his discretion. His ult is an AMAZING disengage tool which can also be used offensively if Thresh jumps onto you with Q. Oh and unlike Naut and Blitz (and other all-in supports) he's RANGED, not melee. And just to add injury to injury, Flay gives him a damage buff on his autoattack harass.

All this adds up to make a support champion who not only has unique strengths that NO other support can provide (Dark Passage) but, more importantly, has_no weaknesses at all._ He's not squishy. He can all-in almost as well as the likes of Leona, but far more safely. He can both engage and disengage. He can poke for fuck's sake! He has some of the best CC in the game. He even has a shield (on the Lantern, natch). Hell, pros play him with Relic Shield so he can even sustain (the bonus damage from his E makes up for not getting the execute proc when last hitting). If he has a weakness, I'd like you to tell me what it is, other than "he's not a dedicated healer" which will make you look like a retard. But we all know he has no weaknesses, and so do the pros, who have NEVER stopped playing Thresh for even a single patch ever since the day of his release. NO other champion has ever been so utterly ubiquitous in the meta- he has literally never not been a highly viable pro pick (I think he's the only champion in the game who can claim this).

Thresh is CertainlyT's greatest success and also his greatest failure- a nightmarish balance monster who overshadows literally every other support in bot lane. He has NO bad matchups and fits EVERY team composition because he's simply flat-out too powerful.

PiRoScOuT8/21/2015, 4:33:58 AM20 votes

People think that you are talking about league...

Kuroi868/21/2015, 5:34:04 AM12 votes

Lmao xD The number of people that post without context is hilarious. Shen /10

Nuclear Panda8/21/2015, 5:45:41 AM6 votes

No matter which game you're talking about, its still true

Jofeyy8/21/2015, 4:31:08 PM4 votes

Nerf his cooldown he can grab a poro a second. Like thats so op. Also buff katerina, she didnt stand a chance against him.

Edit: Play the blitz poro game and then read my comment again before downvoting....

Twiggles8/21/2015, 3:51:13 PM4 votes

This thread is so full of whoosh it's actually a bit scary...

On the subject of the poro game, are you supposed to be able to do something other than lose as Corki? I mean... Is he literally just a joke character there or what?

Mistress Madoka8/21/2015, 7:00:59 PM3 votes

I know what OP is Talking about And I can't even get Halfway through Piltover... ;^;

dig bick rick8/21/2015, 2:30:19 PM2 votes

The amount of people who took this seriously Thresh /10

Calibretto98/21/2015, 3:43:41 PM2 votes

Thresh kit OP. Why play Blitz when you can double grab Poros? Plus the Thresh shuffle is cooler looking. OP. (Hint: If you're not getting it, play the arcade game.)

Edit: This is hilarious how many people didn't even read the OP.

Not Katarina8/21/2015, 6:04:44 PM2 votes

tfw you're just trying to make a joke about poro roundup and everyone takes it seriously, Thresh gets nerfed next patch for being able to grab too many poros and everyone blames you

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BaldursGateII8/21/2015, 9:08:21 PM1 votes

As a Diamond 5 thresh support main, I feel my opinion bears some merit. It is true that thresh has an extremely strong kit. I've tried to make a guide on mobafire for him, but wasn't able to, simply because the correct way to build thresh is to build how the team needs you! Thresh brings everything to the table a team could want: heavy crowd control, the ability to peel, high damage, and an escape for his ADC, as his own escape if you use his Q cleverly.

However, Thresh is not overpowered. The advantage of Thresh is his versatility; he can be used as a blindpick any day without question because he fits into most any team. Thresh has many disadvantages in response to this, which I list below:

       * Thresh falls off after the early/midgame.

Thresh's main advantage is his E/Q combo at level 2, which can all-in most support/adc combinations of the day. However, if the enemy dodges the combo, a huge powerspike is lost to Thresh. The same goes at levels 3, 6, and 11. After these points, thresh's entire kit relies on landing a hook, which despite what someone with less experience might tell you, is easy to avoid. * Thresh has clear counters and comparable supports to battle with. If you think thresh is the only one who plays the way he does, or is the strongest in lane, you aren't playing right. Thresh has equal or lesser strength to braum and leona, and is flat out countered by morgana and alistar, who can negate his combo's. Thresh isn't leagues ahead of these other supports; I could take any one of these others and have comperable results. * Thresh relies on his team's lead and his earlygame to win. Thresh's main strength is his powerful laning phase and deadly earlygame ganks. After this point, however, he becomes useless if his team can't find a lead. In fact, if his team is behind, Thresh can dig a deeper hole for his team with misplaced hooks, stupid dives, attempted rescues, poor roams, and baits on his team. In addition, Thresh's passive, collecting souls, makes his armor fall off of the other supports' levels if he can't reach them. * Thresh can't peel as well as other supports. Thresh actually has poor peel. Don't believe me? Just try keeping their tank off of your ADC when you're behind, and we'll see whose right. If you compare the peel of Thresh to someone such as leona, braum, nami, janna, morgana, alistar, or even Karma, you can see how he isn't amazing. Any of these other supports has a better method of peeling, usually with the aid of a targeted ability. Leona? bash with shield and jump on them. Braum? Auto them so they can be stunned by your ADC. Nami? Heal your adc, make them move fast, and pool the attacker. Janna? Play as janna and get freelo. Morgana? spellshield your adc and root them for 500 years. Alistar? Pulverize and headbutt. Karma? Root, slow, move fast, and shield to peel them. By comparison, Thresh isn't as strong as you might think. All of his abilities are either skillshot or rely on him positioning away from the fight, which you generally don't do with thresh. If you miss your Q, you have a 10s CD. If you miss your E, you're screwed and have to use your ult. If you throw out your lantern, the enemy can just toss a ward on it and your ADC is screwed. To be fair, Thresh isn't hopeless for peeling, but the point is that most other supports are better, other than thresh using his lantern to help an out of position target.

I like to compare Thresh to Lee Sin, or irelia: usable in practically any composition due to their strong earlygame/midgame, but falls off during the lategame to a position not nearly as effective as other choices.

Bronzoid8/21/2015, 3:45:17 AM1 votes

Why complain about Thresh when abominations like Riven and Vayne exist?

Sniper 08/21/2015, 2:21:49 AM1 votes

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