So Riot acknowledged the fundamental problems with marksmen but....

hopeful4·10/9/2017, 7:20:05 PM·11 votes·516 views

we have heard this stuff multiple times before. In season 1, in season 3 and so on. Yet we havent seen any systemic attempt to fix the issue, like we have seen with other issues (itemization, dragons etc).

I feel that Riot will just wait again for ADCs to be less OBVIOUSLY overpowered then move on. Fundamental problems like lack of class diversity in the duo lane or unviability of melee carries will once more be slowly forgotten. Until another meta comes in which the marksmen are again obviously overpowererd and the cycle will repeat again.

I want to be hopeful but i have seen this shit way too many times in all these 6 years that i play LoL.

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Teridax6810/10/2017, 2:07:10 PM5 votes

For me the biggest missed opportunity was the Marksman Update in Preseason 6. To me, that was the biggest chance Riot had given themselves to truly make some deep changes to the class, its itemization and its underlying mechanics, but aside from some good reworks, the class mostly just got powercreeped, keeping unhealthy mechanics like crit and lifesteal wholesale. The class became more positionally versatile, but did not gain any more interactivity (in fact, it lost some counterplay over time by having more burst), and its in-class diversity still remained unchanged to the point where Riot could still not concieve of possible subclasses to split marksmen into. It didn't feel like especially deep research was done into the class's core problems, let alone how to address them, and much like several other roster updates, the Marksman Update ended up feeling shallow, formulaic, and actually kind of problematic in the long run.

I think at this point though, League's competitive scene has become more prominent than it ever was before, and we got to see how damaging the stagnancy of the marksman+enchanter duo was to its entertainment value. On top of that, that same combo has had a major negative impact in normal play as well, to the point where I think Riot should hopefully be internalizing the message that we as players want to see much deeper changes to how teams are composed. So much work has been put into the game to add replay value, and I think at this point the issue of marksman-centric compositional stagnancy should stand out as a very high-value target. Even a move as brash as outright dumpstering the marksman role for a brief duration (which I don't at all advocate, as no player deserves to have their role ruined) could potentially provide tremendous insight into how much the game has been distorted around the class, and how it could evolve when the class no longer becomes essential to literally every team.

Paladin 0f Life10/9/2017, 7:40:00 PM1 votes

Riot makes it either mid game or late game focused. So either AP is too strong or AD is too strong respectively to mid to late. Then this tank rework came in and holy cow wtf riot. We all know adc are too powerful but that is also why you see jarvin pick or ban at worlds since he can one shot or lock down "MOST" adcs, also why janna is in every freaking game with ardent. They like the meta the way it s so it will always be

Inertià10/10/2017, 12:39:11 PM1 votes

It's funny how in LoL every1 complains about adcs but in dota the supports and semi-carries