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PSA: Juggernauts don't just include the major 5.

FrickendaChicken·1/29/2016, 3:49:54 AM·3 votes·337 views

A juggernaut is someone who is tanky, does DPS damage, and relies on health over resistances. Not focusing them means they do a large amount of damage, but peeling them means you've lost some peel for the hyper-carry. The idea is that they're difficult to deal with and deal a lot of damage. This is a problem, usually, but they can be dealt with pretty well with good teamwork, which is what they inspire on both sides.

Aatrox Darius DrMundo Garen Illaoi Mordekaiser Nasus Shyvana Skarner Volibear Warwick These are some of the major Juggernaut, and there are many more champions that work well as with a Juggernaut build, but aren't based solely on being a Juggernaut. Nasus and Volibear scale well with resistances and health, which differentiates them with the others, but they still deal dps over major burst (Nasus can do a large amount of burst, but a 300 stacks Nasus, and one that isn't fed, is pure dps), and can carry teams by simply making the best decisions in the teamfights.

Some people that can become Juggernauts include Vi Shen. Dealing dps and scaling moderately well with health.

But I would like to know 3 things.

  1. Who would you like to become Juggernauts.
  2. Who is the best Juggernaut for you to play.
  3. Who is your favorite Juggernaut.

15 Comments

Dunkrius2g1/29/2016, 5:27:53 AM1 votes

  1. No more. it's time Riot needs to focus on other classes.

  2. Certain Juggernauts are good. You can't say one is better than all because there are some that do different things. Garen Brings justice to Villains and silences them. Darius Dunktown when he gets to KS one kill. Illaoi Teamfight changer with her ult. Highest base AD out of all champions. Passive is what makes her very strong throughout the whole game. Skarner I feel that he has received unjust nerfs but with items and if he is ahead and he is in a shrine, you can't mess with him. He is good for objectives based fights. Mordekaiser You ult and kill adc, gg team fight. Extreme seiging power if the team is particular in getting drags. One main thing to understand is that each champion have different roles in team fights and that is what makes them far more unique than simply being Juggernauts.

  3. I love my Darius.

Xicashina1/29/2016, 4:19:01 PM1 votes

Um you missed Tahm TahmKench

DeathBurst1/29/2016, 4:29:20 PM1 votes

Your list is kinda wrong, because your definition is.

Riot defined Juggernaut as consistent damage and durability, lack of initiation and weak to kiting (see the follow up thread on Jugg in the Dev Corner). Health-binding is just a tool used in balance, not a defining property of the class.

Aatrox is not durable enough and has great initiation, same for Vi: they are Divers. Shyvana and Volibear apparently do not make consensus but are considered more Divers than Juggernaut, for the same reason. Skarner does not make consensus, but is considered at the boundary between Tank Initiator and Juggernaut because of his high amount of CC. Same for Olaf, because of his immunity to CC + spammable slow. Not sure about Warwick, but his ult is definitely not typical of a Juggernaut, whereas the rest of his kit is.

Finally, about your questions:

  1. No one really.
  2. There is no best Juggernaut, that's the point of these Roster Updates: giving each champion unique strengths, so that there isn't a single one better than the other that is always picked.
  3. Garen, with Mordekaiser as a close 2nd.
Incognonymous1/30/2016, 2:11:22 AM1 votes

A juggernaut is someone who is tanky, does DPS damage, and relies on health over resistances.

....what? No. Juggernauts are defined by an inherent lack of mobility and lack of heavy disruption CC. That, by definition, excludes Aatrox, Vi, and Shen.

Saying they rely on DPS is also a little misleading too. It's not DPS when Voli bites you, Darius/Garen ults you, Morde lands 3rd Q, etc. They have mixed damage, some burst, some DPS, the point is they do a lot of damage, but have to be on top of you to do that.

And relying on health.... eh. They get it through itemization, very few scale off it solidly, but there's literally no concrete reason they couldn't prioritize resistances over health, I mean, tanks don't even do that anymore.

Trundle is an excellent candidate for juggernaut status. Part of me wishes the Poppy rework made her into a textbook juggernaut. I'm a Skarner man myself.

ValyrianBlade1/30/2016, 2:24:10 AM1 votes

I think your juggernaut definition is moreso a "bruiser".

A juggernaut would be someone without strong initiation / sticking ability.

Aatrox / Shyv / Voli? Not Juggernauts, but still Bruisers.

Bruisers do all that you've mentioned, and are a huge part of league. Frankly, they're the reason tanks most suck. Why pick a tank when you can pick a bruiser with as much defense but way more damage?

Bruisers sacrifice CC for damage. CC helps peel for your carries. In team-oriented games peeling for your ADC/APC will make you win. In solo queue chaos doing the damage yourself will let you win.