Where are the reworks for champions that actually need one!

Nicholi Aeronus·4/30/2015, 6:56:23 AM·4 votes·723 views

Just curious I love GP and have stayed awake at night waiting for Fiora's rework. When Ryze got his all i could think of is why? He wasnt toxic and was viable the way he was while other champs kits are just completely antiquated or dont meet the goals expected of the champion. Riot please start giving the love to the ones who need it. Seriously though where is the rework for previously mentioned?

17 Comments

Laughing Fish4/30/2015, 11:09:15 AM4 votes

The more broken a champion the harder the rework. they can pump out several reworks like Ashe and Ryze while working on a sion sized rework for people like poppy.

SEKAI4/30/2015, 7:26:59 AM4 votes

I would always stand by my opinion that Lee Sin needs a rework, it would only benefit us all, in the long run.

Teridax684/30/2015, 8:31:48 AM3 votes

If a rework is ready to ship, there's no real reason to hold it back, and some reworks likely got released before others because one or more designers happened to have good ideas for changes at the right time. Alongside that, though, champions like Gangplank and Ryze have been worked on for quite some time, and at that stage it depends on the champion itself. Ryze's problem boiled down to just gameplay, where the lack of peaks and valleys in his power, as well as 100% complete reliability, made him extremely flat and impossible to buff, and so it's likely his rework ended up being a matter of parceling his power better. Gangplank, on the other hand, has some deeper problems: his kit lacks gameplay cohesion, despite having a good running theme, and the most iconic parts of his kit (his Q crit and oranges) also run the risk of being extremely low on interaction. Rioters have mentioned that they're working on him, but it's likely his rework will take more time than Ryze's from start to finish, since they need to make him interesting and fun for everyone, while still keeping as many of the quirky bits of his kit as they can.

On the extreme end of the scale, some of the most urgent reworks are also the most difficult: Yorick , Urgot and Poppy have problems that go way beyond even GP or Fiora , and have been in desperate need of a rework for years, yet doing so would require Sion levels of work for each of them. All of them are probably being overhauled even now, except we'll only see the results in a year, or two or three. Seeing how quick partial reworks like the recent Veigar , Zilean and Mordekaiser changes had mixed results, I'd rather Riot took the time to change a champion comprehensively and in one go, while trying to make that champion the best it can be, than they tried to just fix the most broken bits and left them half-done.

ModWulf Helhammer4/30/2015, 7:12:56 AM2 votes

Actually Ryze was in a state where he was either so strong he completely dominated the field, with inescapable abilities, or he was underpowered and couldn't really do much. When a champ runs into that problem, and only requires minimal changes to fix them/make them more balanced, then they will probably tackle that situation first (like Ashe, for instance)

The Bearded Bard4/30/2015, 7:53:22 AM2 votes

Yorick should be ahead of all now that Sion's been done. His kit is literally broken, the ghouls never target what you want them to target.

AtheosisX4/30/2015, 11:03:48 AM2 votes

There are dozens of champs that need reworks, and the easy ones like Ashe and Ryze naturally will come sooner than the big projects. GP might be a minor rework or a major one, it's hard to know.

The Bíg Ticket4/30/2015, 7:20:02 AM1 votes

Why does Fiora need a rework?

Bears Dont Care4/30/2015, 8:26:11 PM1 votes

WW still waiting ona rework.