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Time to throw in the towel...

youthere·5/31/2017, 3:36:06 AM·6 votes·1,132 views

So after ranked 300+ games this season, I still can't get out of Bronze. Pretty sure I'm actually becoming worse of a player at this point. I've gone from B5 to B1 to B4 to B2 to B4 to B2 more times than I can count, the fact that Divisions even exist at this level is a joke.

I continually hit a wall. I wish the tools existed to compile the number of times my team gives first blood vs enemy, the average winrates of my teammates vs my opponents, and so forth, that way I don't sound like a crazy person in denial blaming matchmaking, but alas.

I've followed all the advice I can get. "Get your teammates fed": This makes them think they are superman and single-handedly throw. "Vision": mained support for way too long, vision is pointless is no one looks at the minimap. "Duo": my hours of availability are odd, so not really a viable option, plus other people disgust me at this point. Etc...

Point being this game feels absolutely hopeless. I know I'll get the "you're where you belong" response, but considering I'm continually matched with people who don't understand even the most basic of game mechanics, e.g. last-hitting, I'd have to disagree.

While on that subject, I'm on the boards quiet a bit, I see a ton of those "smurfing in Bronze" posts. What I find amusing is that a lot of these "smurfs" don't really seem to fare too well. We've all seen Diamond players just thrash through Bronze like nothing, but I've notice a lot of the Golds seem to flounder around.

24 Comments

I Always Swallow5/31/2017, 8:03:27 AM9 votes

janna with thunderlords mundo with tp ignite thunderlords malphite jungle with smite ignite. Dude there is nothing wrong with your teamates it's something with you.

DJPenguu5/31/2017, 3:45:13 AM5 votes

Best advice i can give you is play something other then malphite jungle with ignite. Not becas its bad(which it kinda is) but becas if you want to get out of bronze you gotta carry yourself. Play more carry oriented champ and just solo win games. Only i advice i can really give you. Dont look like you are completely inting your face off so i think you just need a change in champ and role, if mal jungle isnt getting you anywhere. Cant expect your teammates to carry in bronze or any elo really but especially bronze. Take matters into your own hands and pull yourself out of that hell hole.

Chef Draven5/31/2017, 4:15:22 AM2 votes

You play too much tank and not enough damage. If you're a tank you have to hope your teammates go in when you do, target the right person, and overall use your tankiness to win. This doesn't happen in gold/plat and some diamond games so it sure as hell isn't going to happen in bronze. Pick a champ that can carry hard. You're averaging like 10+ assists on your champs, now imagine those are your 10 kills and you can drag yourself out of bronze by 1v3ing and using your noob teammates as meat shields.

statelesskiller5/31/2017, 7:28:53 AM2 votes

dude like im just sitting here looking at your match history. malphite jungle with ignite. and dr mundo

like sometimes you are doing bad, but other times you are popping off like a monster which tells me if you play something actually good you can climb

here is a suggestion. take nasus top. NO ONE knows how to play against nasus in bronze. either they are going to push you under tower 24/7 or there jungler is going to gank you 24/7 neither of which is good for them. just freeze wave infront of tower. farm. profit. eventually your kill happy opponet will become bored and roam. the MOMENT. you see this push. break your freeze. get there tower. rush cdr items. sheen if you are doing fine kindle gem against ap. glacial shroud against ad. get all three you now have 30% cdr and with 10% cdr in runes and 5 % from going 0/18/12 in masteries you have 45% and now you power farm and carry because people are brain dead

like what you need to do is watch some trick2g video about the gates. not his recent ones older ones from a year ago or so. while not really relevant in high level play it is INVALUABLE in the elo you are in. it will help you climb

dont worry man i started bronze 1. im plat 2 now. just gotta have faith and be willing to change how you do. if you want to climb you need to change

An Enemy Sutando5/31/2017, 7:55:36 AM1 votes

Malphite jungle with ignite without finishing your JG item until late game isn't exactly very viable.

Solidarius5/31/2017, 8:28:15 AM1 votes

my hint:

play top lane Pantheon almost EVERY CHAMP you can destroy and get insanely fed very fast and early.

hes easy just gotta practice your ulti a bit to get the hang of it

also your right about people smurfing

Bladeƒire5/31/2017, 11:38:16 AM1 votes

Yeah no the other guy is right, you are actually inting with those builds. You go malphite jg with ignite and rush spirit visage with only 1 ap on the enemy team who went 1/8/2. Build according to team comp and don't do ridiculous picks and maybe you will climb

Shadòw5/31/2017, 11:44:41 AM1 votes

in Bronze it is actually not impossible to solo carry.

not only your teammates, but also the enemies make a lot of mistakes and often lack basic game knowledge. just pick a Hypercarry and try to get Tower FB and objectives.

but when i look at your matchhistory there are no real games where you are overperforming yourself. in Bronze you have to solocarry, and you can because the enemies make a lot, and i mean a lot of mistakes.

And for whatever reason you are playing Malphite Jungle without summoner 4.

Fefnil5/31/2017, 11:59:27 AM1 votes

Playing what you feel better is always the right thing to do, but if you feel yourself in pinch and desperately want to get out of Bronze, like others already said, there are some tips:

  • Don't use supportive champions, which means tanks and enchanters. They are too much dependant on the team.
  • Take early game champions, if you want, but take those who snowball well and can carry singlehandedly.
  • Splitpush. Avoid teamfights unless you are an aoe powerhouse that can win 1v5 (while fed this is actually possible in Bronze)
  • Mobility. Take mobility. You need to be able to catch and to run away. With all these things assessed, the best champions to take to carry out of Bronze quickly are the slayers. You can either take any skirmisher and go splitpush and put pressure with your dueling power like Tryndamere or Master Yi or take a snowballing assassin and go 1v5 (mostly) like Katarina or Fizz. It's a bit sad but, as I said, you can do this if you desperately want to get out of Bronze. They are all fairly easy champions to play, you just need to go balls deep and take kills and push whenever you can. You will eventually make your team fed too even if they suck and it becomes surprisingly easy.
LankPants5/31/2017, 12:31:10 PM1 votes

I'm playing at plat level, far from the best but certainly better than bronze. I also main your role of jungle and play mostly tanks, so let's take a second to compare our profiles.

https://oce.op.gg/summoner/userName=LankPants https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=youthere+

The biggest thing you should note is that on average I die a fair bit less than you, I have 2 less deaths per average game on my main than you do. The biggest thing you can do to improve is to learn how to minimise your deaths effectively.

You also need boots, this is non-negotiable. Movespeed is core to all junglers, you need it to pull off ganks properly. You need basic boots on your first or second back, before you even finish Cinder and Tabi (generally) should slot in just before or after enchant. Tabi are probably one of the most powerful items in the game anyway, there's no reason not to buy them.

You also need to run flash. It's too good to pass up, especially on Malphite. Flash ults are the most powerful thing Malphite can do, they can immediately win games when performed right.

There's no reason to run Thunderlords either. You're not buying AD or AP in high numbers so the damage is going to fall off hard. It's better to run Grasp if you really want an offensive item, most of the time though CotC is just way too good to pass up on jungle tanks, especially those who hard engage like Malphite.

You're not losing because of your teams, you're losing because you have many sub-optimal play habits. If you take some time out to learn the correct ways to play, fix up your pregame and itemisation problems and work on improving your awareness and rotations you shouldn't have too many problems climbing. You just need to admit it's not your teams and be willing to learn.

Also I've seen golds play with bronzes. They can rip bronze to shreds and maintain 60+% winrates. I'd hardly say it's common for legit gold players to struggle in bronze, they can normally destroy bronze and climb to high silver without even slowing down.

I also wouldn't buy too much into the "don't play supportive champs" mentality that many in the thread have. A good tank can climb by simply improving every team they're on so much that in any near even game their team ends up at a huge advantage.

Meteor Driz5/31/2017, 3:38:07 AM1 votes

Too much malphite mang, unfortunately this season is like snowball city. Gotta play stuff that can solo carry.

Fawksea5/31/2017, 2:39:44 PM1 votes

git gud

Quick React5/31/2017, 3:39:56 AM1 votes

Solo lane(tops prob best), Learn the champ, learn every champ that plays that lane hard. Farm hard(miss at most 1 per wave). know if a champ uses blank skill you can counter it or it has a cool down so use it against them. Screw your teammates, they mean nothing and will get you killed. You will win the games on your own. ME though, I love adc. I fucking hate the trolls i get paired with (support) but i love the position so my climbs are usually very slow and take hundreds of games to get past gold

Troll for Trump5/31/2017, 5:45:45 AM1 votes

To get out of gold you need to be good at carrying. If you can't carry gold, you might struggle carrying in bronze, even when ahead

Skorch5/31/2017, 6:54:38 AM1 votes

i mean if you think the people in bronze dont understand "last hitting" i think thats part of your issue. Almost everyone by level 30 understands the basics of the basics. And even then not every teammate is THAT bad.

Btw you got a point division doesnt matter much in bronze with the exception of bronze 5 to everywhere else. Maybe we should indeed rescale ranked.

Instead of B5-1 S5-1 G5-1 P5-1 D5-1 Master ChallengerLP+ Pros its Pro bronze players, BronzeLP- (If you keep losing you keep going into the negatives) S5-1 G5-1 P5-1 D5-1 Master ChallengerLP+ Pros /s