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How Can I Get Out of Bronze?

Embrace Eternity··5 votes·1,436 views

Hey all,

I'm a support main (Thresh/Soraka). With Thresh, I land 90% of my hooks. But, about .01% of the time, the adc clicks the lantern. I can get 20+ or even 30 assists with Thresh and Soraka.

I can't stand getting flamed for being "useless." I'm supposed to have little to no kills, some deaths, and a lot of assists. I guess no one in bronze recognizes the importance of support players.

Anyway, how can I get out of bronze even though I'm a support player? Should I try switching to jungling, my second queue choice?

Thanks

51 Comments

LitAF4 votes

Stop playing support

S0kaX4 votes

Stop being a Support-hater

Embrace Eternity3 votes

Not many people in Bronze recognize the importance of support players. sigh

S0kaX2 votes

IKR

HyperZEROXL1 votes

I know... Season 3 late I started playing LoL Season 4: Getting used to everything and finding where I am (Support because I was forced with the left over position...) Season 5: Finding my champions... Season 6: Found my champions I love (RIP old Yorick ) But I used to use Thresh in Season 4/5 but people never clicked my lantern and started blaming me...Sooo I just went Blitzcrank for a very low time due to...People calling me a blitz Noob every game...THEN I went to Nautilus supp where I find he's my type of support...Only now...Horribly mean ADCs threaten me to use the supports THEY want...But seriously...Try other lanes and see how you do...Urgot could always use your love! [zombie-nunu-hearts]

Roit Gums3 votes

What? didnt op ask for an advice? here is the answer, dont play support its not a carry role i dont think that guy is a "support hater"

S0kaX2 votes

cough cough Support hater cough cough, If the OP is a Support Main do you really think he/she would just change his/her main just cause that's what some haters say?

Roit Gums2 votes

I didnt say that support is a bad role, it just doesnt fit in bronze to get out of it, it might be good in gold+ but in bronze you need something like jg or adc to get the fk out of it then you can play support again

FioraWillCarry1 votes

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I didnt say that support is a bad role, it just doesnt fit in bronze to get out of it, it might be good in gold+ but in bronze you need something like jg or adc to get the fk out of it then you can play support again

I disagree. A good Thresh, Leo or Naut can work in Bronze. They can capitalize on low Bronze idiocy like no other. In fact, I'd even go so far as to say that support is more effective that ADC to climb Bronze. Supports make all the plays in bot lane and a good support is truly terrifying.

Roit Gums2 votes

Yea but later into the game what can you do if your midlaner fed them? it really depends if your adc is good, dont trust anyone in bronze if they are good or not

FioraWillCarry1 votes

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Yea but later into the game what can you do if your midlaner fed them? it really depends if your adc is good, dont trust anyone in bronze if they are good or not

The best thing about CC heavy supports is that 16-2 Syndra isn't doing shit after she eats a Blitz hook. Even your stupid 1-7 ADC can kill her then. I've seen good supports turned lost games into wins and I'm talking about games where every lane fed.

This reminds me of something I learned when I was in Bronze that made me believe there's an easy way to climb out of Bronze. I had to get out by solo carrying my games but if you have friends that play together a lot a good way would be to go Leo/Blitz/Naut supp, Amumu JG, Garen/Darius/Illaio top and whatever mid and ADC. It doesn't matter if your team feeds all to hell you will ALWAYS win the late game. Such comps are unbeatable in Bronze. Even in Silver I still fear such CC heavy tank comps like that. CC is king in low elo.

awdaf4 votes

Just work on mechanics, mechanics are everything.

Linna Excel4 votes

While I agree with this, I think support is a little less mechanic intensive than other roles and is more knowledge intensive.

five oh tree 4 votes

If you're really hitting 90% of your hooks, you wouldn't be bronze. Simple as that. If, for some reason, you really are the poor support player with nasty teams who are always at fault, pick up blitzcrank. If you can really hit 90% of thresh hooks, you should hit even more of his. And hitting > 90% of blitzcrank hooks will carry you far. I clicked on a game in your match history at random, and you have 17 wards placed in a 33 minute game. Bring that number up. Your kill participation on most games is absurdly low for soraka, or thresh which you hit 90% of your hooks on.

If you really are far better than your teammates, as this post implies, play a mage support like brand, zyra, or veigar. If you lose these games, stop blaming your teammates and evaluate your own play. It is almost never correct to blame a teammate for a loss, the obvious exception being when someone ragequits.

Embrace Eternity1 votes

I love constructive criticism.

Your answer gives me insight on how to get better.

Going by what you've mentioned, how can I place more wards per minute? And which warding items do you recommend using? I usually go for sightstone / red sightstone as Thresh.

I have been saving IP for a new champion. I'm currently have 3311 IP. Do you recommend saving for Blitzcrank? Or perhaps a different role/champion?

Thank you for all your time and the reply.

five oh tree 1 votes

If you're that good at hooks, pick up blitzcrank. As for warding items, sightstone first back (unless you were shoved out early, I suppose) and hit that red trinket up. As soon as a lot of junglers hit level 7 and get their completed jungle item, they can solo the drag easy. Make sure to ward that as soon as you get sightstone (you'll be behind them in levels and xp). During laning phase, you can leave for a little bit if the wave isn't smashing your tower to go throw wards in the river or (if their jg is somewhere else on the map) in their jungle. You also need red trinket basically to do dragon unless their bot recalled and their jg is very, very far away, so you shouldn't ever have yellow trinket at the end of a 25 minute game.

Don't be afraid to leave your laner alone. You aren't his support, you are your team's support. Obviously don't just leave at level 2 and never come back, but early wards in enemy jungle will make everyone's lives easier. Just do it smartly. Your ward count will go up if you're using up your sightstone more early during lane phase.

As for recommended warding item? depends. if they have a heavy ad/ap comp, as a tanky support I may just combine sighstone and the support item so I can get resistances earlier and in more of my inventory slots. It's really up to you.

Mimy3 votes

Go a carry role, Pick very easy to learn champions.. Get fed, get called a no skill, profit?

GhostOfTsushima3 votes

You should know that in Bronze, no one can carry you if you can't carry yourself

Not unless you can get a "Smurf" to carry you LMAO

Embrace Eternity1 votes

You are correct. I hate smurfs though. It ruins the fun for us lower ELO players. I don't have fun because some smurf is 11/1 in bot lane or anywhere.

I don't even know why people smurf. Ego boost? Satisfaction for beating obvious less-skilled players? IDK.

Thanks for your answer though.

ReignRejects1 votes

Players tend to smurf because in high elos the queue time is quite long. So they smurf to play the climb. Now I'm sure there are some people just looking to beat people that are just less skilled

AdeBug3 votes

wait, so the problem is you're not winning? or that you're being flamed? or that you get tilted when you're flamed (in which case just mute) resulting in a loss?

Embrace Eternity2 votes

Yeah, that's the gist of my problem.

They say sh*t like "You're useless" when I'm 0/2/12 and adc is 2/4/1.

I tend not to get tilted but that sh*t pisses me off.

AdeBug2 votes

a, b or c? yes.

??

just mute them :>

Linna Excel3 votes

First is don't play thresh in bronze because the ADC probably won't click the lantern. That's a lot of power in his kit and if your ADCs aren't making use of it, it's going to waste. Now keep practicing him in normals as he is one of the better supports to know and you need a lot of games on him to fully use him. If you are that good with his hooks (and I really hate to say this) but have you tried blitz?

Second, Soraka is fine and you might also want to pick up Janna and Sona in case Soraka is banned or picked.

Third, look into someone like Annie or Zyra. These are carry supports who can really help the team out and turn into off-mages.

Finally, remember you can climb out of bronze as a support main. If your ADC isn't doing well by mid-game, then ditch him and support whoever is hard-carrying your team. Remember to ward because you are probably going to be the only one to do it, but never ward alone. Use pings and map awareness to help your team. After you finish your eyestone, boots, and any item that might be core to your support, look into damage items as sometimes more damage on anyone (even AP soraka) is good enough for bronze.

Embrace Eternity2 votes

I've been debating on halting thresh, because of the lantern bs. I'd like to get blitzcrank, even though he's banned 95% of the time in bronze.

BUT, when I have my friend as adc, he clicks the lantern and we pull off sick double kills in early bot lane. He's usually on for only a couple games though.

Annie would definitely be someone to try out. Press R to win right?

Thank you for all of your help :)

EDIT: I do have Janna, Morg and Taric. I'm just better with Thresh and Soraka. I have roughly 3300IP. I'm saving for either Leona or Nami and going to practice them in normals.

Linna Excel3 votes

Don't halt playing him. Keep playing him in normals if you don't feel like playing him in ranked. He actually is a good champ to play support on and he gets better and better as you learn more things you can do with him and climb to the point where people click on the lantern. That's the thing about thresh, people will always forget about it so you can't let yourself get tilted when they don't. Just release in bronze (particularly lower bronze) you are going to lose a bit of power in his kit because teammates and you have to work that much harder to make up for it.

I know that kind of counterdicts what I said, but that's sort of thresh's biggest issue for most players: people aren't going to click the lantern that much until gold, it gets frustrating, but you also need to keep up your practice on him because he's one of the better ones to know.

Also if you think you are good on him, you really shouldn't give him up. If he clicks for you, keep at it. Just not in ranked if people are tilting you that much.

Morg is pretty good, she's an Annie/zyra type. Taric is a good tank. Leona is fine, but I'd be a little hesitant to play her in bronze only because she falls off very hard in the late game and in bronze, games are more likely to go late. If you pick her up, just understand you are going to need to keep your teams focused on objectives, that you need to win early, and that you can't force a bad trade during laning. Nami is good, but you need to be able to land your Qs on her and make the most of her Ws.

Embrace Eternity1 votes

Wow. You're totally correct. Thank you for all your help! You put a lot of thought into this :)

Edgy Katana Man3 votes

What I did is switch from top/mid to playing jungleShaco You don't need a leash (your laners can be in lane and getting experience earlier, you have good invades and early ganks (just be careful about pink wards) I know bunches of people say he falls off completely, not true. He just becomes a split pusher. Playing support in low bronze and silver is just a bad idea if you're trying to carry unless you're playing:Morgana Brand Veigar Zyra Blitzcrank All of those champs are good "carry supports"

Aptest2 votes

Hi.

There are three things I notice happen a lot in your Elo range.

  1. Players in bronze 4-5 do not react properly to AA/skillshot harass during early laning. They either get cowed super easy and get pushed off the creeps and into their tower (tell your ADC to not push hard when it happens and you can zone them). Or they take too long to return harass and try to all in you when they are too low so you get free kills on them. Or they just don't respond properly at all and you just get free kills. So harass, harass, harass.

  2. Most bronze 4 players do not use their exhaust properly in lane (they pop it too early and you can back off, they dont use it), and they do not use it outside of lane. Use yours. Every time you fight and it's off CD. It's the single most potent combat summoner. If you use it and the other guy does not, guess what happens?

  3. Players in bronze 4 run like headless chickens. So you gotta tell them to do stuff that counts towards winning the game. Like, specific stuff. Like taking a tower. or coming to team fight. Or anything really. EDIT: if your tongue ain't the color brown you're not doing it properly.

  4. Bronze 4 and below, nobody uses trinket. Buying red one is waste of resources you're not gonna sweep anything. get the yellow or the blue and USE THEM. Also buy pinks.

  5. Your ADC's back time. How many dragons i lose because bronze 2-3-4 want their "just one more wave" and back at bad time and opposing jungler just free dragon. Tell him to back and also tell him why because if you don't explain he'll ignore.

  6. I've yet to see a bronze 4 supports using any "combat" item actives. Are you using yours?

Embrace Eternity1 votes
  1. You are right. It's like they're blind ;-;

  2. Again, you're right. I use it at the right time!

  3. You're 3/3. I ping a shit load so it's kinda annoying but I know what I'm doing.

  4. 100% so far. I ward and ward and ward. I'm sometime the only person on my team doing so ;-;

  5. Yeah it's either bad back time or the adc feeding :(

  6. Hell yes. Locket, Mikael's, Omen, Glory. If I can get them without adc feeding that is.

FioraWillCarry2 votes

You can get out of Bronze with Thresh. I had a friend that made the climb from Bronze to Gold playing Thresh support almost exclusively.

Support players should play supports like Thresh, Leona, Nautilaus, Blitz with a single goal in mind, getting your ADC fed. Play supports like Annie, Zyra and Brand with two goals, getting your ADC fed or getting yourself fed if your ADC is stupid.

Bronze is about getting fed and killing everything. That's how I got out. Forget all that complex stuff like macro play and wave management, objective control. Bronze players are too stupid to even understand how to play the game like that. Play to kill every thing or help you allies kill everything and your team can take objectives that way.

Embrace Eternity1 votes

This helps a lot! Thank you!

Joseph Gladstone2 votes

being a support main means you have to rely on your team to do all damage, which in bronze is not verniorebgvuuuuuutrl

GULAG 4 U2 votes

Don't play support.

69469238DEL12 votes

you'll never escape Bronze as support. you know why? because supporting trash is bad.

Levantern1 votes

Well I'm a (Thresh)supp main myself, as well in bronze (for now)

i started from bronze 4 and started ranking again around august now i'm in bronze 1 (it's been hell)

**In my opinion **I feel like you can't really climb the latter (in bronze) as a support main unless you duo bot because half of the time you'll get a random adc who can't really "adc" and it's just not the greatest. Supporting in bronze, you pretty much rely on your adc/team to win so unless you really want to win, maybe another role such as mid has a better chance of a win since you don't rely on your adc.

I don't know maybe i'm wrong but it works for me I always duo with a friend/friends that are at least in the same skill level as me i either duo bot with a friend (support) or mid and my friend is the jg. Since I've been doing that I've come close to silver, It's worked for me at least maybe it will for you too.[slayer-jinx-catface]

Embrace Eternity2 votes

Yeah. It's been hell for me as well. I started playing league in early September and placed Bronze 1. Now, I'm bronze 4 ;-;

I can mid, so I'll try that out. Thank you for all your help!

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

work on decision making. decision making is everything

kasfas1 votes

Don't play support. But if you need to, play with a friend. It's much easier to win if you have a good friend to voice chat with so you can inform them of your cool downs and when you want to go in.

Zenthon Prime1 votes

First problem: you're not using /mute all enough. That crap is the only thing that keeps me from tilting off the face of the planet.

Secondly: you're in Bronze IV. Thresh is a champion that gets better as your teammates do. Right now, your teammates are utter trash. I'd play him in norms to maintain your skill on him, but right now he isn't exactly the best choice. Mage supports like Zyra or Brand lack the absurd banrate of Blitzcrank (who is honestly freelo down there) and are probably your best choice for just straight-up carrying. Morg is equally busted, although she doesn't do as much damage. If you do get a competent ADC, you can either choose to snowball them or roam mid if you're confident they won't die.

Thirdly: Thresh isn't even your most played champion, Zac is, and you have a way better winrate on Zac. If you already have the skills jungle may be a better option here.

Ruin Lance1 votes

i suggest either NOT supporting in bronze or picking a support that can carry/deal lots of damage (Zyra Velkoz) since i personally haven't been bronze, i tried supporting in bronze 2 elo on my smurf and it is absolute hell if you are playing a support that heavily relies off of your team. the thing is, even if you get your adc fed in bronze, a lot of them are too incompetent to actually keep their lead and not just get blown up by the darius or get caught out frequently.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

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a lot of them are too incompetent to actually keep their lead and not just get blown up by the darius or get caught out frequently.

Stick to them like white on rice and ward the fuck out of the map. Think of them like new born babies that cannot do anything right without a competent adult near by to help them out when they inevitably fuck up. CC heavy supports are boss at this.

Anotherherolost1 votes

You know what to do: farm more, take objectives and don't chase people into dark jungles. Look at the mini map and shit.

Most importantly be a shepherd, all us bronzies need is guidance. Tell people what to do as a group, don't be a dick about it just be a leader. If at any point you don't know what to do next just focus the next objective.

But yea play a carry, don't rely on other peoples skills before the match even starts.

420 grams1 votes

I'd say switch to jungle or top or mid. It's hard to climb, especially at low elos, in a position that's so dependent on others.

Hrd2H1t1 votes

A lot of people say "work on mechanics." However, its not mechanics that matter. Sure being able to 1v5 Pentakill with Soraka due to your pure mechanical skill is impressive, but having better game knowledge, map awareness, shot-calling ability, and a positive attitude is WAY more helpful.

Meep Man1 votes

You play Brand

UnboundCreator1 votes

The cold hard truth is that anyone who is stuck in bronze just needs to get good at the game. There is really no other reason to be stuck there.

EpicMusic1 votes

You dont

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