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Why is ADC so boring now?

52409615_DEL··3 votes·1,996 views

No matter how much i practice i have no impact on the game anymore, if i get fed it's because support deals more dmg than me and spoon feeds me a kill or the jg ganks at lvl 3 and spoon feeds me another kill, vise versa for the other adc that does nothing but sit and farm for all lane phase, there no real emotion or good duels/plays in lane anymore, it's just these 4 man bot ganks all game, every time you go in 4 people show up, so the best strategy every game seems to just be bored for 15 mins do nothing and farm. I feel like when i win it wasn't because of me, even if i'm fed i know those kills were not earned, and when i lose i feel like there's no room for improvement because i got point click 1 shot by something, something like full AP Malphite that somehow still scales super tanky and even playing Vayne the tank killer, i can't duel the tank ever, i have 1.3 million mastery on Vayne and i can't 1v1 even the tank support in lane? nor can i 1v1 any tanks latter in the game, only people i can 1v1 are squishy targets, which makes no sense for vayne. then latter in the game my role is basically "try not to get caught", i don't get to play and show some damage because i'm always busy trying to get away from every move that practically 1 shots me, so the team fight gets decided by my team and i feel like i did nothing to win us the game or lose it, i just dodged stuff...? It's more of a role that's just there for show, i feel like my only use is taking turrets/drags, i rarely deal most damage on the team this season and i rarely get to actually play the game, i'm either just farming, or trying not to get ccd in a team fight, but fun duels? never happens, it's just these dumb 5v5 all game and who ever has the person that gets caught first loses, then death times take for ever and you lose just like that.

It's sad because last season i had so much fun, i went from bronze 5 to gold and could see the impact i had in every win, when i lost i could usually find my fault in the loss, because of a bad play or simply getting out skilled, and when i would win the graph would show why. Now i'm here trying to adapt because i still love the game, but i just can't have fun with my main role anymore.

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Critmaster Garen3 votes

marksmen will never be not shut down as soon as possible.

when theyre overbuffed, people run full engage tank and assassin comps and burst them. when defense gets nerfed and tanks cant tank them anymore, theyre going to run full hp/ap damage builds and blow them up.

when assassins get nerfed, people will run mages and high cc comps to kill them.

because no one in his right mind is going to let this dude just chill there in the back and deal a full burst comp of a mage worth in damage every second.

theyre a binary class of champions. every meta in which marksmen are as strong as they are, is going to be focused around killing marksmen as efficiently as possible so the rest of us can play the game.

if you want the marksman not to be the priority target, you need to allow other lategame carry classes to exist. but adc mains usually lose their shit as soon as someone like a bruiser, assassin or skirmisher deals comparable damage.

52409615_DEL1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kLE9lKXh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-09-13T22:08:20.303+0000)

marksmen will never be not shut down as soon as possible.

when theyre overbuffed, people run full engage tank and assassin comps and burst them. when defense gets nerfed and tanks cant tank them anymore, theyre going to run full hp/ap damage builds and blow them up.

when assassins get nerfed, people will run mages and high cc comps to kill them.

because no one in his right mind is going to let this dude just chill there in the back and deal a full burst comp of a mage worth in damage every second.

theyre a binary class of champions. every meta in which marksmen are as strong as they are, is going to be focused around killing marksmen as efficiently as possible so the rest of us can play the game.

if you want the marksman not to be the priority target, you need to allow other lategame carry classes to exist. but adc mains usually lose their shit as soon as someone like a bruiser, assassin or skirmisher deals comparable damage.

I have always said that it's never fun getting bursted to nothing by zed, how ever, it makes much more sense than being bursted to nothing by Malphite, is my answer to that.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Satori The Mist ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kLE9lKXh,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-09-13T23:32:14.032+0000)

I have always said that it's never fun getting bursted to nothing by zed, how ever, it makes much more sense than being bursted to nothing by Malphite, is my answer to that.

well, for everyone else its not fun to baby that one guy on your team who makes 1/3 of your teams damage in teamfights.

it also isnt fun to be forced to always focus the enemy marksman, because theyre never truly irrelevant. even an uderfed and gold starved marksman still deals enough damage to force the attention of your team.

if you just ignore him and go for other targets first, his damage will stack up and he will still kill you. especially someone like Vayne whi has so much item independent damage in her kit, that she doesnt need a lot of gold to be effective. she just needs 1 or 2 as items and she will still deal a load of damage if unchecked.

52409615_DEL1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kLE9lKXh,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-13T23:36:03.154+0000)

well, for everyone else its not fun to baby that one guy on your team who makes 1/3 of your teams damage in teamfights.

it also isnt fun to be forced to always focus the enemy marksman, because theyre never truly irrelevant. even an uderfed and gold starved marksman still deals enough damage to force the attention of your team.

if you just ignore him and go for other targets first, his damage will stack up and he will still kill you. especially someone like Vayne whi has so much item independent damage in her kit, that she doesnt need a lot of gold to be effective. she just needs 1 or 2 as items and she will still deal a load of damage if unchecked.

"she doesnt need a lot of gold to be effective. she just needs 1 or 2 as items and she will still deal a load of damage if unchecked." - Anyone who plays vayne will disagree with this statement. She is the most item reliant adc aka gold, she doesn't spike till 4 items in, and AS always loses to straight ie, which is why crit vayne is now popular again, exept it's very unreliable, example, i just finished a game 11/7 most dmg on my team, does it matter? i went 9/0 in my lane, i still could not cary vs fed Kat and i have zero control over mid lane, and in latter fights crit vayne = glass canon, unreliable and to hard to cary if your team isn't of any use. http://rebrn.com/re/imqtpie-adcs-are-trash-right-now-and-unsatisfying-to-play-614538/

Sherogarth1 votes

Adcs are usually mid/late game champions and it's normal that some supports have better dmg early in game (some even later if we count burst). Also the higher u get the more game is centered around farm and objectives and less around kills. There is a reason why stereotype adc is a baby that needs to be feeded by his/her team. And yes adc role in team fight is "try to not die as long as possible and pump out as much dmg as u can" nothing more, nothing less. Also adcs as a role were invented to destroy turrets (asap) long time ago xD. If it gets boring then try other role and see if its more funny for you.

52409615_DEL1 votes

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Adcs are usually mid/late game champions and it's normal that some supports have better dmg early in game (some even later if we count burst). Also the higher u get the more game is centered around farm and objectives and less around kills. There is a reason why stereotype adc is a baby that needs to be feeded by his/her team. And yes adc role in team fight is "try to not die as long as possible and pump out as much dmg as u can" nothing more, nothing less. Also adcs as a role were invented to destroy turrets (asap) long time ago xD. If it gets boring then try other role and see if its more funny for you.

It's not that it's getting boring, it's that it got boring since this season, it was just fine prior. I see what you're saying for the most part though.

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