A Discussion On Shen - What Succeeded And What Failed

Silverclaw·3/16/2016, 4:25:23 AM·1 votes·764 views

As someone who played a lot of old shen and has dabbled in the new one, let me explain somethings:

  1. Shen was one of my first champions I really, truly loved
  2. Shen is still my 3rd highest mastery points champion
  3. I agreed that Shen was in need of a rework.

That said, I think new Shen has failed MISERABLY, and that he is a husk of his old self. I'll explain why in a bit, but first, I want to say that Shen still feels like a Ninja - and he feels closer to a ninja from pop culture - that is probably the biggest selling point on New Shen! In that aspect, he has succeeded.

However, I have a few major gripes with the New Shen - specifically, he gains much less than he loses in the rework.

  1. Shen has no way to enable his own splitpush - All Splitpushers have either the ability to delete a champion from the game, waveclear, the ability to take a tower quickly, or sustain (and often times multiple of these traits). I can forgive Shen not having waveclear - that's a design decision that MAKES SENSE - you can't have waveclear as well as an ability to instantly join the team (however, the summoner spell teleport being pretty much standard doesn't align with this goal, nor the hydras being virtually mandatory on splitpushers for waveclear). However:
  2. None of Shen's Q damage applies to turrets. Your old Passive, Ki Strike, allowed you to deal some extra damage to turrets. But the Q coming to you AND the Q's on-hit damage do not apply to turrets. You cannot get to the tower in the first place without titanic hydra, and you cannot KILL the turret because you do NO DAMAGE TO IT. If you're a splitpusher that cannot take towers, you are useless.
  3. Shen's Spirit Blade is a minigame - And the community has already stated that we don't want to play miniames! IN ADDITION, if you are behind in lane or your team is behind at all, you cannot use your spirit blade effectively as you need time to position the damn thing - and you don't get time to position it if you are behind.
  4. Shen has a worse than average lane phase now - he has no way to deal with ranged opponents at all, and can barely deal with half of the melee ones.
  5. Shen's W is a worse version of Jax E. Shen's W is AOE, yes, but Jax E has a similarly small mana cost, comes up anywhere from 2 to 4 seconds faster, does damage, and STUNS in an AOE. And given how Shen's supposed to be splitpushing most of the time, the AOE portion doesn't mean much.

I don't get why New Shen had to be so neutered. Can we please have a friendly discussion, Riot?

By the way - according to chapion.gg, Shen does the least damage of ANY TOP LANER. Shen's low damage was something that was supposed to be fixed by the rework. What gives?

3 Comments

Nahui3/16/2016, 4:31:32 AM1 votes

I think his W was well made thematically and still diversified enough from Jax's. Shen is a vanguard, and now 3 of his abilities reflect that. It makes sense he's got an aoe AA block. Jax is supposed to be this battle master. It makes sense he can dodge attacks himself then skillfully strike back.

In terms of usefulness, Shen's has a lot more utility. He can save multiple team member while Jax can only save himself. Jax comes up more as it's a personal safety ability. Shen simply shields all of his allies.

Otherwise I do believe new Shen needs more waveclear.

Dominick Destine3/16/2016, 4:39:31 AM1 votes

I liked having old Shen on my team.

I despise having new Shen on my team.

Thund3r Ang3l3/16/2016, 7:57:00 AM1 votes

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