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Master yi design doesn't make sense.

Cenobite Azaziel·5/16/2016, 6:50:49 PM·3 votes·2,200 views

Before you go "omg yi nerf, gut him" go look for a teemo tread and have fun.

Yi play pattern is an assassin one. He works better cleaning up a team fight and has a reset.

The problem is yi does not have the tools to be an assassin and is outclassed as a fighter.

1- an assassin is generally feast of famine, recurring to split pushing during the late game if his early was weak. See shaco, zed. - Yi sucks at split pushing. He can't dive like trnyda/zed nor he takes the tower fast as jax.

2- An assassin has little to no utility. Zed has a slow, shaco a slow and hard to apply fear, kat has no cc. They get burst damage. Yi has dps. No team utility, no CC whats so ever.

3- A fighter has utility, can dish some damage and is an off tank - jax, renek. Pantheon. Even of a fighter is famine he can do something for his team. Jax can stun, pant cand dive ans stun, renek can dive and stun.

Yi has the worst of both worlds. He wants to be both classes but don't have the tools to do so.

Q- is an engage/dodge tool. Can rarely work as a disengage only if you have a wall in between, since it's casting time allows the enemy to catch up with you. Can rarely work as a poke tool.

E and passive - AA related. Needs to survive if he wants to do damage. Would be great in an ranged carry.

W- generally used as a glorified AA reset. It is a skills that generally a lose-lose situation. Is he alone? Keep smacking him until he dies. It is in a TF? Let him heal and deal with the rest of the team. It is a 4x5 since he is there, wasting his ult and wanking his life back. Or you can stun/knock him up making is more useless than any spell shield that means mitigated damage while you can AA the enemy team. It is a dead skill.

R- low duration. If he wants to splitpush he will have to burn it to escape. When he is on cd master yi is no threat. It isn't like other assassins that can deal great damage without their ults.

Yi has no utility to offer for his team. Any ADC can do what he does in a safe distance, some can even blow up him.

Imagine a vayne, with no CC and melee range. That's master yi.

Riot, If you think he is a fighter, give him the tools to soak up damage while doing damage and some team utility. (Diana) If he is an assassin, give him the tools to go in and out a fight and burst damage ( zed/ shaco/kat)

His current kit makes no sense.

12 Comments

Verxint5/16/2016, 6:54:22 PM2 votes

If you actually felt inclined to be aware of balance instead of just impulsively complain, you might realize that in the upcoming reclassification of champions where they are extending and clarifying the class definitions, Yi is going to be a type of champion called a "Skirmisher" which in simple terms means "assassin-esque melee carries". It's going to be part of the meta class "slayers" which includes assassins and skirmishers

He was never an assassin, Riot just had no idea what to call melees for a long time.

Edit: names were backwards

Kledy McKledFace5/16/2016, 6:54:32 PM1 votes

and it is why they shouldnt have reworked him into the annpying character he is right now and make him a mage instead like he used to be

Veraska5/16/2016, 6:55:06 PM1 votes

Master yi is a skirmisher (sub class I'm the slayer class) he lacks the general burst of an assassin (while retaining the mobility and squishiness) but has the target neutrality to hurt whoever he has to focus in teamfights

Same class as yasuo, riven, fiora, and tryndamere

BluePolarizer5/17/2016, 8:06:19 AM1 votes

Yi is a skirmisher/light fighter. He doesn't need burst, he has the highest sustained damage in the game. Not every champ needs the same kit.

Also, you have no idea of the mechanical outplays that you can do with Yi's W. I'm a 200+ ranked game season 4 Yi main. If you had truly mastered Yi, you would be able to use W to block clutch autos in an early game jungle invade while simultaneously using it as an autoattack reset, getting you the kill/surviving the invade with a sliver of health. It also is huge against ADCs late game with telegraphed crits like Caitlyn or Draven, and the single blocked auto can make the difference between life and death.

Cenobite Azaziel5/17/2016, 9:40:02 AM1 votes

Ok, I go "OMIGOD! A 200 games+ master yi, wow, such skill, much yi, so handsome."

I guess you missed: "generally used as a glorified AA reset." You forgot that you can W walk a turret shot or even tank it and reset agro with your Q.

Btw, you can go for a fast clear (4 small camps no pots for rushing t2 jungle item [made sense before the machete buff), so there was no need to clutch an AA while being invaded. But since you shoved you E-dick in my face it's my time to do the same =].

Don't go "Ohhhh you didn't mastered yi!" This isn't my main account. S2 ACC that I used to post here since the forums aren't fused.

You: s4 gold- 271 games on yi - Gold main yi s5- 234 games on yi - plat main hec + a lot of yi. s6- dropped yi - plat V

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/br/6901184#runes

Me: s4 - 53 - gold main yi finished the season stuck in gold I. s5- 17 games- plat main yi s6 - dynamic queue. Eh.

I literally main yi on that account. I don't pick it as you "Ohhh my team comp is better with hec... or yi was countered I better pick noc for the early game pressure..."

While you have options to pick and other champions to warp you MMR winnings, I will only pick yi, unless he is banned.

It is Yi for any situation.

So, stop waving your e-dick because if the guy that "didn't mastered yi" can get into the SAME ELO AS YOU without a shit ton of games (1/4 of your master yi games and EVEN LESS if you consider all your champion picks) and with only ONE champion, you should check that master's degree of yours.

I would give master yi W for a cutlass effect or CC any day so he could be relevant in early ganks.

"A true master is an eternal student."

Cordially, a Master Yi main.

ps: Sorry If I was too rough. I get pissed when ppl say I don't know a champion that I main =].

SlashStriker6/12/2016, 7:34:54 PM1 votes

as Yi main i always felt with tons of misadvantages. Most champion have decent escape and CC but if you try to gank an Yi and he is not ahead you would most probably kill him quite easy. For Easy to play Champion to Die Easy does not make sense.

The only reason people play Yi jungle is because they cannot play Yi at all. They don't even know single Mechanic and good thing that Cowsep decided to show some mechanics and became streamer. But even Cowsep sucks at laning.

And even when people say Yi is easy champion to play and then they say Yi mid and Top is Trollpick. Obvious people who don't know how to play Yi at all. On the lane he is easy kill. In the jungle no one will make you problems so go to jungle instead trying to win Laning Phases cause its easy that way

And if you do say you are good Player then Pick Yi top or mid and win games

MasterYi vs Jax MasterYi vs Renekton MasterYi vs Ahri MasterYi vs Anivia Also keep in mind if This guy Shaco is their jungler which would be nightmare laning phase for you