Often times when I am low on mana and somebody wants to gank or something, I will ping that I am out of mana. This number is usually around 13%, but that doesn't really tell them anything. 13% can be 100 mana or 500. there is no way of knowing. A flat number on the other hand would tell a player "Oh, he has 200 mana, that is enough for his ult and q, but nothing else." For the sake of clarity it should be changed.
Morgan le Fey84 votesMaybe both? "Sona has 100 mana (16%) or "Sona has 16% (100) mana" or something.
Ninjapro2k9 votesMaybe both? "Sona has 100 mana (16%) or "Sona has 16% (100) mana" or something.
This or make it changeable
Teridax6832 votesI agree, a flat amount would be more useful, as bar some exceptions most champions tend to have similar mana costs to their abilities. By contrast, mana pools are much more variable, especially when you factor in items, so knowing which percentage of a mana pool a champion has left isn't helpful when it counts, i.e. when they're mostly depleted but could perhaps still cast a few more abilities in a short fight. Listing both could also be an option, particularly since it would not take that much more space.
Pierce The Veal9 votesI agree, a flat amount would be more useful, as bar some exceptions most champions tend to have similar mana costs to their abilities. By contrast, mana pools are much more variable, especially when you factor in items, so knowing which percentage of a mana pool a champion has left isn't helpful when it counts, i.e. when they're mostly depleted but could perhaps still cast a few more abilities in a short fight. Listing both could also be an option, particularly since it would not take that much more space.
The feels when you're playing kassadin and you ping your 600 mana to indicate you can't use your 800 mana ult :D
And your team misunderstands lmao.
TeCoolMage7 votesIn that case you ping your ult
MagikarpIsBoss2 votesBut you cant ping the cost of an ability.
TeCoolMage1 votesYes but the fact it costs 800 mana doesn't matter, what matters is that you can't cast it
Pierce The Veal1 votesYes but the fact it costs 800 mana doesn't matter, what matters is that you can't cast it
But it only tells you if it's on cooldown or not, not whether you can cast it.
Pierce The Veal2 votesIn that case you ping your ult
It could also mean you can ult 3 times If you had no stacks up.
Could we perhaps ping status effects? Would be nice to let people know I have this many stacks of my ult, or oh shit nasus has 700 stacks, and etc.
TeCoolMage2 votesKey phrase: 'in that case'
But yes being able to ping status effects would be good
Pierce The Veal1 votesKey phrase: 'in that case'
But yes being able to ping status effects would be good
Pinging your ult "in that case" can mean two things. One, that you can't ult, two, you can ult 3 times. Heck, if they don't know how much kass's ult costs and they thought it cost as much as a regular ult, it would mean you can cast it 6 times to them.
But yeah pinging status effects would be awesome.
TeCoolMage1 votesIf you ping your 800 mana ult it says 'not enough mana', not 'not enough mana unless I wait out the ult stacks and from there I can cast three times'
DeathBurst1 votesYes please :)
Oznap12 votesPinging a ability that doesn't have enough mana usually helps if you have a ability low enough. Though there is always that middle spot where you have enough to case only 1-2 spells where this would help.
ntbcool7 votesya i do it all the time on Kass cause even though i have 40% mana i still can't ult.
DuskDaUmbreon2 votesTo be fair, half the time I'm playing him 70% mana isn't enough to ult. :^ )
ntbcool4 votesfeelsKassman
Pierce The Veal2 votesya i do it all the time on Kass cause even though i have 40% mana i still can't ult.
That's why I get rod of ages, seraph's, morellonomican, and lich bane on him. 10% cdr from runes. Bam. Who needs boots anyways? ;P
The 25% mana cost refund on seraph's is awesome. Although it doesn't allow you to use max stack ult at 600 mana, it makes you only consume 75% mana from ult stacks which is sick af.
Onibaku12 votesif flat numbers... should be 100/500 (20%)
Potato Doc9 votesWhy not both?
SwainDaRokJensen7 votesBoth please. I think my brain can process a few extra numbers in the chat.
9Wly9oMl025 votesI'd much rather see a percent. I don't have every champ's mana usage down. So it saying, "oh he has 200 mana" in no way, shape, or form tells me that he has enough mana for his ult and Q lol. Where as if someone has a low percentage of mana, I know that the probably don't have enough for a rotation. Plus, if they're pinging me they have 13% mana, that is probably a good indicator of "I'm letting you know that I do not have enough mana for this gank to work."
ntbcool7 voteswouldn't a flat number accomplish the same thing? even if you don't have all the mana values memorized, you should still understand that 150 mana isn't a lot. Maybe the change won't be very useful for those who don't know mana costs and stuff, but it would be very useful for those who do.
9Wly9oMl021 voteswouldn't a flat number accomplish the same thing?
See, not for me. I have no idea how big the champions pool is or how much mana their spells cost. 150 mana might be enough for some champs to use their strong CC, while 150 on other champs with huge mana cost might not be enough for 2 abilities. Obviously the same can be said about %, but to me, it's much more meaningful to see someone with 10% mana, since 10% is a very little amount. Just easier to in my opinion to put context to.
RIP Tahm Kench2 votesBut in the context of the OP, early game pinging your mana when you don't have enough for a full combo can be deceptive. For a Velkoz, using all of your basic abilities is easily 200 mana, and then 100 mana on top to ult.
That can mean that at level 6, 30% mana is not enough and pinging your mana seems like "I have enough for a combo" when you're trying to say the opposite without wasting time typing. Level 18 and morello completely flip the meaning of 30% mana from "nearly empty" to "enough for an extended team fight".
9Wly9oMl021 votesOk, so if you do not know Vel, 30% mana seems like it should be enough, but isn't. So, wouldn't pinging that you have 250 mana seem like enough if you didn't know Vel as well? So basically in the same boat lol. Which is why I see no reason to change it :)
My Waifu Vanilla3 votesThe difference is MOST champions in the game have VERY similar mana costs. With the upcoming Singed change I am fairly certain every ult (barring stuff like Kassadin) costs 100 mana. Most main damaging abilities on mages are also around 100 mana leaving full combos to be about 350 ish or so if they use their entire kit. That being said 350 could be as much as 45% of someone's mana or as little as 15% if they have something like Morellonomicon.
ntbcool2 votesso true, almost every combo (early game ones atleast) cost about the same. Honestly there is probably a bigger range in mana pool size then in combo cost, making percentage even less useful.
Xion The XIV5 votesyup I can see the % being a problem on some champions such as 
15% mana (800)
EinarUlfar5 votesWould MUCH prefer Flat Amount & Percent.
ntbcool3 votesYES, or atleast both
BLACK REALM GOD3 votes
was removed from summoners rift a long time ago.
Master Summoner2 votesGod forbid u people cant learn how to do math on the fly
ntbcool12 votesOk I have 13% mana, should u gank?
Silent Gravity10 votesYou pinged your mana after I pinged that I was on my way to gank. That means that you don't have enough mana to contribute much.
The question then becomes, can I kill them or force a summoner spell usage myself.
ntbcool4 votesor i ping the mana to say I can only use a spells or 2 and its up to you to do the rest. then you decide if you can kill them with that little bit of assistance. edit: it is true that most people just ping mana to say oom/ dont gank. And they could still do that if you ping mana and it says 10% or 100 most people wont gank, but it could be very useful for those that want to use to with a little more depth if they changed it to flat.
Master Summoner1 votesIT ALL DEPENDS ON OTHER FACTORS HOW LOW THE ENEMY IS DO THEY HAVE SUMS DOES UR TEAM HAVE SUMS THERE ARE MORE FACTORS LOL IF SOMEONE HAS LOW MANA CHANCES ARE U SHOULD NOT GANK
ntbcool1 votesgoob forbid you do a little math and figure out if you can kill them with only 1-2 spells from your ally vs just giving up when your ally has sub 20% mana.
BLACK REALM GOD1 votes20% mana. yet i have 4k mana. how much mana did i need for 3 spell casts of a level 5 q and a single spell cast of level 4 w and a level 1 e and a finisher of level 2 R?
oh well better not go in.
20% of 4k is 800. 800 is plenty of mana for all of those.
great now my team knows that they can attack right?
20% mana. yet i have 600 mana. how much mana did i need for 3 spell casts of a level 1 Q a single spell cast of a level 1 W and a level 1 E and i dont have my R yet.
20% of 600 is 120. you'd barely have enough to do your q's much less anything else.
great now my team knows to not go in.
...the ambiguity is what gets me the most.
anyone can sort of guess how many spells you can do if you ping your mana and it were to say X mana
since it says % mana if you're playing someone like anivia or swain players just assume you're out or good to go when the opposite may in fact be true.
ntbcool1 votesagreed
Junkο2 votesTo be fair flat ~~percent ~~ number isn't exactly telling either.
YambrinZ1 votesI think its irrelevant. Pinging mana should mean "i do not have enough mana to do anything but auto attack".
EvilMerodach5 votesI think its irrelevant. Pinging mana should mean "i do not have enough mana to do anything but auto attack".
As an Udyr main, I very much disagree with this. Usually if I ping my mana, it's to point out, that, yes, I can prolly run in and stun someone, then turtle my way out of the mess, but that's about all you're going to get out of me. So, if you think all you need is the stun..then...YOLO...but, if you need more backup than 1 hit, well..better just back off.
