"Lissandra players felt like they had no passive" EXCUSE ME? FREE MANA? WHAT ABOUT WUKONG'S 4 ARMOR?
Jesus fukin Christ, even the new champ has a better wukong's w, is this a joke?
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The difference here is that Lissandra's mana costs were tuned much higher than average to compensate for her passive. It basically meant that you had to manage your passive and mana instead of just managing mana. Imaging Wukong had 10-30 lower base resists than every other fighter to justify his current passive. That's the gist of Lissandra's old passive.
That said, look at what happened to Liss this patch. Her new passive is 100% worthless in lane and 90% worthless in solo queue. They nerfed her -50 base damage and .2 AP. That's a bigger net loss than the recent nerfs to Akali, Leblanc, Graves, and Irelia combined. And they barely lowered her mana costs, so now she's just OOM all the time in lane.
Don't even get me started on what happened to Zyra. What a fuckin' debacle.
You think you want a new passive but you don't. Take it from somebody who's been through this twice now. Wukong has a shit passive because it's low budget. If you want a better passive it's going to cost you something, like your ability to 1-shot things from stealth with zero counterplay. Or your freelo W scripts. Or the Lord Dominik's baked into your kit instead of having to buy it like everyone else. Or your Katarina ult with hard cc, but with movement and immunity to interrupt.
The moral of the story is this: if you cry too much about a passive, Riot will give you something to really cry about.
tfw ur passive is so good that the rest of your kit and base stats aren't allowed to be strong 
I don't see why Liss having a bad passive has anything to do with Wukong.
Like, yeah, I think we'd find a lot of agreement that his passive isn't good. I imagine even the devs would have no issues agreeing with that.
That feel when they give a champ that is already top tier mid, even seeing tons of play in worlds a massive buff.
Never change riot.
Because her passive is almost nonexistent? At least, although I agree with you that Wu’s passive is lackluster, his passive gives him fighting potential for using his full combo correctly. Most people forget about Lissandra’s current passive later in the game.
Nah if you want to talk about no passives, look at 
who's passive reads "Rek'Sai's W does what it's supposed to."