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Aurelion sol rework is so bad

duje·8/28/2019, 10:47:19 AM·108 votes·26,163 views

They made him into a bad cluknky burst mage. There is no more point in building him unique and tanky since now you should just go 40 cdr full penetration ap. So they took away him unique build path away. Now you cant silence/Cc his W but basicly he CC's himself every 3 seconds with his W and he is super easy to trade with now and super easy to kite. SInce you have to try to engage with your Q in the trade and todays champs are so mobile every champ has a instant movement spell and if you dodge his Q he cant open up with W and you just have to kite his W for 3 secs and your free to go on him. Removing the speed on his E i did not like since it was very unique to him. I mean you put everything you could into qyiana(put taliyah passive into her W and made it way better lol) and you killed sol. His lane matchups got worse. He is even more clunky to play,you made him into a bad burst mage without any unique aspect to him. I hate the mini rework every part of it. Only thing that got better is its easier to evade ganks with W move speed. But you destroyed one of the most unique and rewarding champions to master to a bad and clunky burst/combo mage. You even took away his roam power. Utter trash rework of an already underplayed and over nerfed champion.Great damn job riot.

122 Comments

Posui Gart8/28/2019, 12:45:37 PM57 votes

"His adjusted W should also help make him a more approachable champion to those new to him"

Imagine removing Riven reset combos to make her "more approachable". Imagine all the screams and tears...

Silent Reaper8/28/2019, 11:45:58 AM35 votes

Not sure what you are expecting tbh. Riot has changed every champion into a burst character. Even "tanks" like Galion are being made into burst characters. All we can hope for is that they revert the changes but I doubt they are intelligent enough to do that

boricCentaur18/28/2019, 12:01:17 PM27 votes

Wow riot ignoring EVERYONE did not work out. Who could of saw that coming o wait EVERYONE.

14daysuspensionk8/28/2019, 3:42:49 PM18 votes

I play him and this is the first rework that has ever ruined a champion for me.

Cow Fetish8/28/2019, 10:45:38 PM14 votes

Im a Diamond Aurelion main with over 1 mil mastery so I have some say over this "rework". They basically made him into the worlds most clunky burst mage that literally is saying hey choose any other burst mage lmao, they even deleted his potential to roam by making his e not give movement speed and a 80 second long cooldown which was his main gimmick so if it flops u just lost 2 waves of minions and decided hey lets also make it so he cant farm as well too by making his w also non existent until level 9, honestly kind of upset that they just decided to delete a champion from existence but hey they gave us plenty of time to tell us that sols going to dissapear from this game soon on the PBE and to pick up a new champ to main.

That derg8/28/2019, 3:22:41 PM13 votes

I don't understand why they decided to do this, I understand that Aurelion has had high win rates due to those knowing how to play him play him well, but literally they killed his entire kit by changing his w and movespeed passive. He's literally meant to be a control-like champion who does well with spacing and literal orb walking, along with ganking other lanes to ensure that they as well as yourself get ahead to win the game. The 3 second lock on his stars make it a literal get-in/get-out kind of playset, with a ridiculous amount of counterplay to it now with all of your spells being on cooldown. Cool, stars don't get removed upon stuns/hard CC, but now you lost all control on how you play the game. You change the entire aspect of how playing sol works.

Bultz8/28/2019, 1:10:19 PM11 votes

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They made him into a bad cluknky burst mage. There is no more point in building him unique and tanky since now you should just go 40 cdr full penetration ap. So they took away him unique build path away. Now you cant silence/Cc his W but basicly he CC's himself every 3 seconds with his W and he is super easy to trade with now and super easy to kite. SInce you have to try to engage with your Q in the trade and todays champs are so mobile every champ has a instant movement spell and if you dodge his Q he cant open up with W and you just have to kite his W for 3 secs and your free to go on him. Removing the speed on his E i did not like since it was very unique to him. I mean you put everything you could into qyiana(put taliyah passive into her W and made it way better lol) and you killed sol. His lane matchups got worse. He is even more clunky to play,you made him into a bad burst mage without any unique aspect to him. I hate the mini rework every part of it. Only thing that got better is its easier to evade ganks with W move speed. But you destroyed one of the most unique and rewarding champions to master to a bad and clunky burst/combo mage. You even took away his roam power. Utter trash rework of an already underplayed and over nerfed champion.Great damn job riot.

Idk why you're saying all of this like it's a bad thing? I haven't seen a single player use the most amazingly designed champion in years because he is a niche pick for high tier players. They needed to rework ASOL a long time ago. I love the champion, but dying in 2 seconds when someone picks a counter, which like 90% of champions do, isn't fun. Maybe this iteration of a rework isn't good, but he needs to change

androjenajaci8/28/2019, 5:38:17 PM8 votes

I agree with you, i played him today and it did not feel like i am playing the ASol, he is weaker than before, and he seems so slow now cause of the e buff remove. I have no comment for riot. Pray forAurelionSol

Miserable Stray8/28/2019, 11:19:38 PM8 votes

the only rework as bad and braindead as this one is ryze. Catering to bad players is killing any competitive sense this game ever had and as a long time aurelion player it actually hurts to see this. He used to be the best champ in the game and even now he's still strong with 2 actual hard counters TwistedFate Kassadin but there is zero satisfaction in playing him now. I get that league wants to be like fortnite but that's what they had nexus blitz for and then removed so they could ruin SR with all these horrible changes

Hadhar8/28/2019, 6:48:59 PM8 votes

Now, I'm no Aurelion main, but he was one of my top picks and got pretty good with him. That said... this rework is garbo for those who liked the feel of old ASol, just thought he needed better defensive options against all the CC and mobility in the game. If they wanted to make him more approachable, they could have added the star speed up burst that slows back to its original speed, left his W a toggle that stays on, but reduce the amount of damage the stars do to compensate for the upfront burst.

His identity as a battle-mage who thrives in longer fights and chase downs completely went out the window. They didn't just add some burst and tone down his chase down... They completely killed the chase down. If you don't build full CDR, chasing down an opponent is painful. Not to mention for a mini-rework, this completely changes his build.

I used to Build him ROA> Rylai's> Liandry> Zhonya's/Death Cap. Was great for chasing down and securing those kills. Since CDR wasn't really too important since you could keep your w active for as long as you had mana. Now,If you do this, he feels extremely clunky and your odds of getting kills falls hard since his burst with his old's burst build isn't high enough to actually kill someone without having to ult everytime, and chasing while having to spam w with 2 seconds worth of easy window of escape makes rylai/liandry build pretty useless since the point of those items are to stick to your target and burn them down.

Strangely, one of the stronger builds I've found that makes him actually feel like he can get kills without haivng to blow ult everytime is Luden>Protobelt> Zhonya/Morello> Deathcap/void. Can change out Luden for Arch angel's as well. Even then, he doesn't feel like aurelion anymore he feel like a worse -insert burst mage name here- .

Used to be my top lane pick into low mobility melee champs for his good sustain damage and ability to stick and kite. After this rework, there's not a snowball's chance in hell I would even consider taking him top anymore. 2/10 on this rework. Guess if you liked older ASol, it's time to break out Singed again.

Recuro8/28/2019, 11:36:49 PM7 votes

Just played a game and after a few minutes I was already wishing the game was over so I wouldn't have to play him anymore. I really hate what they did to his w. It makes him feel like a hit and run champ when before he liked to stay in the fight as long as possible. Even lategame when the cd is short it just feels stupid bringing the stars in and out repeatedly. I also miss the passive speed on his e.

Riot please revert. Maybe I could get used to him eventually but at the moment the thought of even playing him for one more game sounds like an absolute chore.

Ionian Vulpix8/28/2019, 7:45:12 PM7 votes

They homogenized him. He went from one of the most unique champs, though extremely niche for most players, to a much more standardized burst mage.

MasterDClone8/28/2019, 6:56:56 PM6 votes

80 votes damn i didn't think there were this many asol players out there lol

Nyrew8/28/2019, 9:17:33 PM6 votes

As an AS player, I really think that his rework is bad. His unique mecanics are now gone. Yeah sure you have a burst mage, lmao. But he's suposed to be a DPS mage that glow in long team fight. Just put back AS as we loved him. Obviously he had a high win rate for a bad pickrate because only few people love to play him but because they train they manage to make him work. Now a lot of AS player will no longer play the champ because it's not the same mecanics. Of course, the actual meta is based on burst, but despite changing every champ and add burst mecanics can you just slow down ? I don't know, now every game is based on what champ is capable of dealing more damage the faster possible. It's just a question of snowball. Tanks are gone on toplane, and I don't see a lot of them jgl and supp. They don't have the time to buy their items and take tankyness. Do you know why everyone is buying sterack on bruiser know ? Because it's an antiburst item, like hextech gunblade or death dance. So the problem is not the champion but the meta. And I think Riot changed the champion because it didn't feel good to play it know. But they just ruined a champ. Hope they will put it back because a lot of people will stop playing it.

Blå drake8/28/2019, 9:48:03 PM6 votes

Aurelion Sol is now basically a worse version of Syndra, which can get to lane faster every 80 second.

Riot, revert it.

Famous Gay Actor8/28/2019, 9:58:19 PM5 votes

Every single change that Riot gave to Aurelion made him a better champion and a little more forgiving to play as him... but the W change completely gutted this champion and stripped him of his identity as a strong roaming DPS mage. If they revert the change to his W no longer being a toggle, I'd argue the rest of the changes are strict buffs and a welcome change to the stagnant Mid Meta.

Oh and please take a look at Fizz. He's busted. KTHANKSBYE.

duje8/28/2019, 12:37:40 PM5 votes

Yes exactly to my point like i said. They made him a bad burst mage QWR ignite and run away with W move speed. I really dont understand what your talking about.

Greenerwave8/28/2019, 11:43:00 PM5 votes

Q- Fine, minimum stun time could be buffed a bit

W- The 3 second limit shouldn’t even exist... Sol is all about mastering the positioning, so even if you take a second to get into position, the W deactivates before you can get anything done... I think the speed increase should stay at the start, and decay to normal speed- the 40% movement burst is nice but it could be taken out

Plus using this after a EQ giant star tank it’s good to have the outer limit increased, just makes it harder to do what sol does best (plus part is the most fun tbh)

E- the starting range is great! But you could honestly just leave the passive movement bonus and remove the burst from W

R- I always felt this was kinda underpowered but you gotta do what you gotta do

Hordes668/29/2019, 12:55:25 AM4 votes

Seriously though, try naming one thing this dev team has worked on in the last year that hasn't been bad/garbage. I'll wait.

hazerddex8/30/2019, 2:38:09 PM3 votes

His r no long synergizes with the rest of his kit.

You can press r then press w and watch as they immediately move to far or too close before the ring expands or you can expand the ring first then press r and watch the ring shrink down right after you press r.

Why would they even think making the w not a toggle was a good move?

We dont need another burst mage When we have

Xerath Zoe Brand Velkoz Neeko Lux Ahri

That does this nerffed sols job better.

And yes I'm going to call this "rework" a nerf because thats what it is.

Profirix8/28/2019, 6:31:18 PM3 votes

He has way too much counter play now without any strengths. His W being on all the time allowed him to zone but what is the point now when it ends after 3 seconds?

It isn't that his damage is bad. It is just that they completely changed his role now. He isn't a zoning mage anymore. He's a burst mage. We have plenty of those already.

JBONZ8/29/2019, 1:38:18 AM3 votes

I mean, If Riot didnt want us to play Aurelion Sol remove the f***er from the game or say its a character rework. This is insanity. I'll no longer be spending the monthly amount I do on this game until they change it to something reasonable xD

#IllPutMyMoneyIntoAGameThatsMoreStable #Riot

LunarFoxz8/29/2019, 3:24:13 AM3 votes

I hate the w change. When ur teamfighting with ur 2000 mana it just goes to watse. although the mov speed kinda helps

Zoe0neTrick8/29/2019, 1:35:05 PM3 votes

Absolute garbage rework... Now i have to drop one of the only champs keeping me playing this game so sick of riot reworking champions 24/7!!! He wasnt causing anyone trouble he kept a few dedicated players happy! And you go completely change him ruining all the time A sol mains have put into mastering him! So frustrating fed up of this crap now. Azir has the same problem nerfed for pro play and turned into garbage in solo Q... Will this company ever learn!

Theorex8/28/2019, 7:47:19 PM2 votes

You're gripes are falling on deaf ears.

Ryze Mains complained about Ryze being fucking useless outside of VERY niche situations, and riot still only cares about Pro Play.

Riot games doesn't care of the player bases of unpopular champions. At one point they cared about those player bases. I remember when Riot was about to change Riven to where she would automatically auto after Q's, but the streamers and big riven players ALL bitched about how that would remove power from her kit and they didn't go through with it.

Meanwhile Ryze mains bitch about how Ryze got a double whammy on the removal of base point click snare that only lasted .75 seconds and the shields. One or the other, but no they decided that both was the answer because they want that champion to be at a 47% win rate in IRON. Where those players literally do not understand how to play the game. Literally what I got from the "internal" talk about champion balance was. "We want players that don't know how to play the game to play champions that are completely out of their skill range, so we would rather hurt everyone else in the community." Because Iron - Gold players on average pour as many games into ranked as Plat+ players. The average games per player rises as you climb in elo. Except maybe this season, where NA riot absolutely fucked up.

I really want to see the numbers of players from season to season.