@Riot: Revert the God**** Ranked System or Add SoloQ without Premades

ShadowBz·3/4/2016, 4:55:06 PM·97 votes·3,142 views

This is really sad for those soloQ players that enters alone. Just been through another game where the enemy team constantly 5 man gank bot or roam in a group with skypeish timed attacks or sieges. There is no way in hell ranked is considered a "test of skill" or is even fun. Now it's just a hidden version of Ranked teams and there's no way to avoid it since a 4 man premade requires a 5th solo person. .

How is it fair to be against a premade that obviously communicate through skype/etc with a team of randoms that are on their own? Who's the idiot that created this idea?

45 Comments

SolidPooh3/4/2016, 5:35:01 PM13 votes

I've actually banned myself from playing ranked until solo queue is in (though I really dont want to :( )

Banuvan3/5/2016, 2:20:20 AM8 votes

Rito Logic

Remove Solo Queue Only offer Dynamic Queue State they are going to bring back solo queue State dynamic queue a success! Refuse to see that it's only a success because it's the only option Never see solo queue again based on the above

I'm just waiting for Lyte to post something about how Dynamic Queue is a huge success and have "data" about how everybody loves dynamic queue so much they are only playing it. Then he will go completely silent when everybody throws it in his face that it's the only option because they removed solo queue.

Cenobite Azaziel3/5/2016, 2:33:19 AM7 votes

Dropped the game for 2 weeks. I fell no urge to play it again. S5 Plat IV - Now I'm gold V and losing hard. Guess what? Dynamic queue isn't fun when you play alone. Feels like just I have leper. No pings, no chat, no ganks. Just enemy dives a lane rotations.

To add up the balance team philosophy feels like they are throwing darts. "So... we buff lux, a champion with 50% win rate." "Xin has no unique feel and is too binary. I know let give him a 3 hit passive! So he can out sustain and duel anything".

The game is just a mess. Riot remakes something and it will be broken until they give up and throw into the gutter, Poppy Graves Fiora . Mordekaiser 100% pick or ban because he is a ball of stats bot lane? Nerfed to the ground. Just change a little bit of his kit and throw him back to top lane.

Dwith3/4/2016, 7:48:47 PM5 votes

Riot support said "a month and a half we may see it emerge" what a load of shit. Nobody in high elo takes d que serious so easy to abuse. Guess s6 will have an asterix next to it saying *ranks didnt matter this season since there was no real solo que. Sad shit. Whos gonna take someone seriously who gets high elo cuz their friends played with them but lose every solo game? Just makes the game not worth playing. Big difference between playing with teams and players that are solo whoevers idea to combine them is 100% retarded.

Frigid Ice Storm3/5/2016, 12:34:08 AM4 votes

Yeah, fking premades are cancer, they don't talk to you at all or help you, they just help eachother. BRING BACK SOLO QUE, WHERE THE GAMES ARE DECIDED BY SKILL, NOT COMMUNICATION

Mister Support3/4/2016, 8:08:56 PM4 votes

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There is no way in hell ranked is considered a "test of skill" or is even fun. Now it's just a hidden version of Ranked teams and there's no way to avoid it since a 4 man premade requires a 5th solo person. .

How is it fair to be against a premade that obviously communicate through skype/etc with a team of randoms that are on their own? Who's the idiot that created this idea?

While 4-man premade does need one random 5th to enter a game, a solo player does not require a 4-man premade. Riot has said it time and again, solo players should get the same rough experience in diamond and below elos because you will over 99% of the time be matched with other solos or a duo.

When Q'ing as a 5-man premade, you will be matched with another 5-man as an enemy about 98% of the time. Meaning 2% will be something other than a 5-man. As well as the chance for a 4-man premade to be matched with another 4-man is 96%. So the chance of you getting in a match of all solo's against a 4 or 5-man team is incredibly small to the point where it won't greatly effect your overall ranked standings. And if you DO play more often than not with a large group of friends, then you will in about 98/100 games play with other 5-mans, meaning your rank in Dynamic Q will represent your standing in a coordinated environment.

A.K.A unless you are the unluckiest person in the League community, you are probably more likely to get struck by lightning once a week than to get matched with all solos vs. a 5-man enough for it to matter.

LatetotheRace3/4/2016, 7:37:12 PM4 votes

Need that Rioter post to make up some bs about how group of 3-4 didn't have any place in the Ranked system. I dunno, maybe get one or two more people who are as good as y'all are? Nah? Too much effort? Fine, ruin literally everyone else's experience.

groko3/4/2016, 8:23:16 PM3 votes

riot hates to admit theyre wrong and thats why they straight removed solo que to force everyone to like their new piece of shit if they released it with solo q no serious player would touch dynamic que its not a true showing of skill

Magnum Mack3/4/2016, 11:01:16 PM3 votes

I wouldn't mind these situations if there were staggered reward punishments for going in as a group. Like, gaining less lp when in premades and not being punished the same when running against solo players as you would in premades. Like an lp handicap.

For example: I join solo and get a certain amount of lp from my game. I join the same game scenario, but as a premade and make less lp from that game in relation to how many people are in my premade. I queue up solo and lose against a group of other solo queue players. I receive my defeat. I queue up solo against a premade group and lose, but face less of a punishment for that loss due to my handicap. I queue up in a premade and lose, facing a harsher penalty because we had the advantage as a premade. I queue up as a premade and win, but gain less lp because the opposing team had a handicap due to mostly solo players in arrangement.

This handicap system would make making premades safer, but take longer to climb the ladder. Consequently, solo players who can properly support or carry their team are rewarded for playing well and climb faster, but will still have to face the safer premade teams.

I will make this clear:

Solo queue players should not be punished for preferring to queue up solo.

Solo queue players should be rewarded for going against a slanted system skewed in favor of advantages gained from outside the game such as voice comms and teammates who have generally played and practiced together before. Solo queues should have an lp increase just for going in solo. A team of solo players are always at a disadvantage and winning in this scenario should grant them a greater reward.

I'd even go so far as to say that Premade Promo wins are worth half as much as Solo promo wins.

Solo games should give greater reward in relation to risk of loss, where as safer premades should climb slower because it is based less on individual skill and more on team coordination.

Look at TSM. Individually strong players with poor communication can routinely flounder. However, weaker individuals with good synergy can still succeed despite poor individual mechanics.

Secret Baller3/4/2016, 6:37:15 PM3 votes

Skypeish timed attacks or sieges! SKYPEISH!!! Or.... perhaps they just actually looked at what their teammates were doing and made a decision? Or... perhaps one of them typed something like, "TP up, ganking bot" Then three other people read that and decided to help out. Bottom line, there's no reason why you lost other than the other team played better than you / yours. Play better, PLAY WITH FRIENDS (if you can), pay attention to what is happening in your games, win.

Steve Holt3/5/2016, 9:16:34 PM2 votes

I agree! This is Leuge of Premade not solo que, last game we faced 5 premade! That is as far from solo que you can even get. Make a sepreate que for all thos who play 5 vs 5 premade. Its just ruin the game as it is now.

KakitaMike3/4/2016, 6:53:24 PM2 votes

Not saying your wrong, and I would love a guaranteed solo queue, but I've also felt that just paying attention to where people are on the map goes a long way to getting team kills. I've also played with people that chat and ping like it's their job. Sometimes it's by good players, sometimes bad.

Yuri By Mail3/4/2016, 9:06:17 PM2 votes

No.

Unstoppable Monk3/5/2016, 12:15:35 AM2 votes

ikr a lot of soloers use voice now, so it could be just the popularity of curse or discord.

Lil Lewd Witch3/4/2016, 5:07:23 PM2 votes

If they have a 4 man, that means you have a 4 man. Sometimes you get the shit group.

DracosKasu3/4/2016, 8:11:40 PM1 votes

First it is a team base game, secondo if you cant work around teamplay you probally do something wrong because my friend in high elo is still at the same division right now

High53/4/2016, 7:39:56 PM1 votes

I agree with the point, but the @ and swearing are childish.

Maybe Riot will respond though. They've constantly fed the immature ranting as much as the constructive conversations.

Canidae3/5/2016, 5:53:47 AM1 votes

Don't players who are partied get an "mmr bonus" for coordination so when there are solo queue players, they tend to perform better, because on the individual basis they are considered to have a higher mmr? At least, that's how they do it for Dota 2.

RoBin Ur Ho0d3/5/2016, 8:51:15 AM1 votes

here is an idea..... GET SOME FRIENDS Game is alot more fun with friends, I'd rather have 2 or 3 friends on my team who aren't retards that we can easily carry a game then having 4 complete morons who only play this game so they can get off on pissing people off and reporting. I will never do a solo que again in ranked, fuck trolls and afkers. If you don't have friends to que with then quit being anti social and get some it's not hard to add people and make friends.

DarkRitual3/4/2016, 9:07:19 PM1 votes

If your playing in a 4+1, you have like an 80%-ish chance of playing against a 4+1 group. Have you considered asking to join voice comms, ajd make it 5v4+1?