Ults that don't feel 'Ultimate'

ProphaneProphet·4/21/2015, 11:24:51 PM·33 votes·6,746 views

In this thread I want to list Champions whose R skills don't have the 'oomph' too really feel like ults. I'm not talking about functionality or power, but the feel of it. Some examples of a good, visceral, you-know-it-when-it-happens ult: Nocturne, Lux, Pantheon, Amumu, Nasus/Renekton.

Udyr and Karma don't count.

Number One offender in my opinion: Ryze. When I'm fighting against him or when I'm playing him, his ult never feels like it's making an impact. I barely even notice it at all. Ryze is supposed to be a living conduit of arcane power, but you never feel that using his ult. So sad.

Brand: This is a case where the ult is quite powerful, but the animations and sound effects just don't do it justice.

What are some ults that folks out there on the boards feel need some love?

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Sypher The Poro4/22/2015, 4:06:38 AM20 votes

Tristana ADC, with an AP ratio on ult, and all it does is knock people away from you. Evelynn Spikes that tickle you unless she has 4000 AP. Leblanc My spell is now purple. Bow before your god. Volibear Yells loudly for no apparent reason (To be honest, I'm not even sure what his ult does) Taric Hits the ground and now he get's attack damage and ability power, with only AP and Armor ratios. Shen Let me just take 20 seconds to show the enemy I'm coming. Quinn Turns an ADC into a melee attacker. Bard o lok, mi team run away? ULTI! LOLS

Earthlord Jazz4/22/2015, 6:01:09 AM18 votes

Singed just gives stat buffs. While it's fun running circles, it doesn't feel very ultimate

Saianna4/22/2015, 9:53:28 AM16 votes

Sivir. You guys might disagree but...

item 3069 "LOOK MA' I'MA SIVIR NOW"

It's just meh. Assists stacking abilility

The Y2J Problem4/22/2015, 3:15:38 AM16 votes

Aatrox

Oh yeah, and Aatrox

Seriously, his ultimate is nearly exactly the same as Olaf's Vicious Strikes

Take a look: Vicious Strikes - Cooldown 16 Seconds For 6 seconds, Olaf gains 9 / 12 / 15 / 18 / 21% bonus lifesteal and 40 / 50 / 60 / 70 / 80% bonus attack speed. During this time, Olaf also gains 0.5% enhanced healing from all sources for every 1% of his missing health.

And then there's Aatrox's Massacre - Cooldown 100/85/70 Seconds Aatrox draws in the blood of his foes, dealing 200 / 300 / 400 (+ 100% AP) magic damage to all nearby enemy champions. Aatrox gains 40 / 50 / 60% bonus attack speed as well as 175 attack range (325 total range) for 12 seconds.

So basically, the only advantages Aatrox has over Olaf's W is the AoE damage and additional attack range. The attack speed (Vital to Aatrox's kit) is less, plus the additional Life steal, and then the enhanced healing. Obviously he does get attack speed from his passive (Also like Olaf) and Life steal from his W, but it just feels weird to have such a weak ultimate on what is supposed to be the essential "God of War" in this series.

Also % Health Costs. F*** that.

ProphaneProphet4/22/2015, 12:30:16 AM13 votes

Veigar is another egregious example. The only thing noticeable about it is the huge sudden loss of health. Otherwise, it looks and feels just like his q, but stronger.

Borfin4/21/2015, 11:26:23 PM10 votes

Jax The active portion anyway.

Jax should have something visible that indicates he's in "Grandmaster" mode. Simply being immensely tough suddenly and randomly seems off.

skyfall6194/22/2015, 2:32:03 AM8 votes

Shyvana is probably the biggest offender of lackluster ultimates. she turns into a dragon that can me stopped by any and all cc regardless of how weak the cc is. even when you land a good ult the cc it brings is just laughable. all the dragon does is make her attacks aoe.......................................................................one of.more boring ult in the game yet has the potential to be one of the best ult in the game.

terkmc4/22/2015, 1:09:33 AM8 votes

Xerath Pew Pew Pew KogMaw Pew Pew Pew

Reikken4/22/2015, 1:38:53 AM7 votes

JarvanIV

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(just kidding. DEMACIAAA)

Rando McGee4/22/2015, 2:16:02 PM7 votes

Not a single mention of Khazix ? The evolution mechanic is good, but the routine is so set that it's basically Q, E, W/R depending on what isn't as bad in your current situation. The ult itself is very underwhelming, 60+ second cooldown for 2/3 charges of 2 seconds of invisibility and a tiny speed boost.

Laughing Fish4/22/2015, 11:07:30 AM7 votes

Singed his ult is powerful, but it feels very underwhelming to me.

DEmperor954/21/2015, 11:31:29 PM6 votes

Irelia Taric Trundle Xerath XinZhao

Nucleophilic atk4/22/2015, 11:51:47 AM5 votes

Bunch of examples here, so I will give the opposite. I feel like a badass muthafuker when I use Fiddlesticks ult.

Titanium704/22/2015, 2:27:43 AM5 votes

Yeah Brand is a good example - the Ult feels really underwhelming - i used the Ult more than once to iniate and getting all other blazing effects...

Xerath is the next example - yes the ult can be gamechanging but it feels lackluster. Especially if you played old xerath. Anivia She´s kinda special as well, her ult is amazing, but get hit by... anything and it´s lost.. that´s pretty sad compared to Maokei, Swain.

And than... there´s Nocturne q.q

ZylotheWolfbane4/23/2015, 1:04:44 AM5 votes

Mordekaiser : "RAAAGH!" :Cue tiny symbol bobbing over person's head: Huh...that didn't seem to do much....weird.

Gangplank : To be fair, it's better than what it used to be, randomized and such, but still, feels kinda... meh.

Jayce : You might say it shouldn't count, but I really feel like his transformations could feel a bit more... powerful. Something like that. The new Bloodborn game does weapon transformations surprisingly well, they feel visceral and potent.

Zilean : Don't worry buddy! Go ham! You'll be fine!... Buddy? Buddy, why are you running away? Buddy, why did you Flash? I don't...but... but now it wore off... and you got caught anyway... dammit. Yorick has a similar issue.

Rammus : It's supposed to cause an earthquake, kinda just looks like he's having really bad rippling gas.

Newb the Legend4/22/2015, 5:39:36 AM4 votes

Anivia's ult kinda feels like a basic ability,

Aria Valkyrie4/23/2015, 2:28:23 AM3 votes

Another ult i feel could use a bit more oomph is Karthus . Like yeah, you get the pillar of stuff over your head, but i feel like it could take a bit of a cue from ults like RekSai and Nocturne . Give the ult more presence, and make his voice be heard globally. it'd be a small touch to an already ridiculous ult, but like. It'd add to the terror of getting away at 20 health and hearing one of karthus's soliloquies ring out with the existing effects. Plus, some of the things he says when he ults are things that kinda make it seem like they should be heard globally. Like he has:

  1. "Listen and rejoice in death!"
  2. "A dirge for those who remain!"
  3. "Hear me, mortals!"
  4. "Sing with your final breath!"
  5. And one of the fun ones from his pentakill skin "My song, smite them all!" Tell me that wouldn't be just as terrifying as a Rek'sai screeching across the map? Requiem is terrifying as is, but to give that ult a global voice would just make it perfect
BrickRocket4/22/2015, 2:18:50 AM3 votes

Olaf, Because counterplay

Krinu4/22/2015, 12:39:00 AM3 votes

I think Jax is probably the worst, but a lot of the steroid ults lack an obvious indicator they're being used.

HeWolf4/22/2015, 11:54:57 AM3 votes

I agree with you about these ones: Brand Corki (cereal rockets until you get the big one) Evelynn (good visuals but laughable effect) Irelia (great but slightly underwhelming VFX) Jax (I think that it needs more than a circle around him) Malzahar (Game Link Cable) Mordekaiser (could use some better sounds) Veigar Xerath

DarkFaun Fortes4/22/2015, 2:49:00 AM2 votes

Aatrox Alistar Fizz Maokai MasterYi Ryze Taric Varus MonkeyKing Zyra

Sir Wellington4/22/2015, 10:08:03 PM2 votes

Akali's ultimate is very unimpressive. If you compare it to any other gapcloser in the game it looks very ordinary.

cloman1004/21/2015, 11:34:43 PM1 votes

umm umm umm umm............RekSai all it does is tp to a tunnel which doent help if your opponent already destroyed it when they are doing barron basicly its tpVayne her ultiis only good when ganking like invisable then e the opponent to your allies but otherwise it sucks ( in my oppinion)

DanofDemacia4/22/2015, 12:05:50 AM1 votes

No one mentioned diana?

Passionlip4/22/2015, 10:16:01 AM1 votes

Why everything needs to be flashy and noticeable? °_