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Kindred Rework Discussion Thread

FIyingPanda·6/3/2017, 3:11:38 PM·3 votes·960 views

Hi there. This thread is here to generally discuss how people feel about the new Kindred reworks. I personally hate them and think Riot made poor decisions at literally every turn with them.

Cant build them tank anymore.

No longer is a viable tank buster lategame.

Ive never played them jungle (used to mid kindred all day) but the people Ive talked to who do, say their clear is much more painful now. And when ganking we have to choose between using our e as a bloody initial slow or the intended execute aspect of it. Wtf was Riot thinking with this move that works at cross purposes to ITSELF!?

Traded raw power vs literally any champ in the game for..... slight range buffs lategame? Dafuq? WHO THE F**K WAS ASKING FOR THIS RIOT?!?! This doesn't even work well mechanically with our Q targeting.

Turned a really unique champ into a generic ranged adc that doesnt particularly do anything better than other adcs, and is in fact PUNISHED by their passive system for putting you in the bot lane (seriously the amount of marks Im getting as botlane kindred is pathetic compared to mid... which is why I always TOOK her there.)

I now do damage virtually exclusively through AD. I cant pick kindred in a heavy ad teamcomp any longer while in olden days my shred wouldnt give a d**n about their teams five thornmails anyway. Oh and while we're on the topic, a thornmail tank is now going to make my squishy crit happy self obsolete now.

Since the rework I've had to use my ult as an emergency OFUQ button waaaaay more often than I used to and half the time thats how Im getting my kills now - ult outplay cheese. This doesn't make me feel good about this champ.

Sheer garbage in my relatively inexperienced experience. But I wanna hear from higher tier old hand Kindreds and see what they think about the trainwreck that I see before me! So whatcha guys think?

5 Comments

MinaZer06/3/2017, 3:37:50 PM2 votes

they ingeneral feel different and have a completely different cadence to Kindreds AA during Q and after the AS steroid wears off, the rework is still relatively new and needs more time to be played as the champion has changed relatively significantly.

the AA steroid is good early game, but then becomes useless because AS and crit go hand in hand in items (item 3086 items) so the AA steroid is kinda wasted later in the game.

Kindred early game is stronger but mid game is weaker for a disgusting late game.

kiting isn't limited to the small circle of wolfs frenzy now because of AA range scaling with marks gained

the E feels very wierd now like why does Kindred's execute need to be timed perfectly 3 auto attacks in advance? you could put it on someone and crit twice, killing them, or you could get no crits and wolf just does a meaningless amount of damage. Jhin, and panth have their abilities that crit due to some level of HP as instant-cast point and click abilities with no wind up,

their strength doesn't fully rely on marks so if they fall behind they wont stay behind, the early game risk and reward still there but you dont live and die by marks which was an idiotic playstyle anyway

All in all it was the right direction for Kindred but probably still needs work honestly. We will see how the rework affects their winrate and playrate in the coming patches.

(This post is not in a pro-con format, just random posting)

Winters Dawn6/3/2017, 3:42:28 PM1 votes

I love the new changed. Been playing kindred since she was released on the pbe. Not only do I feel like kindred hits harder but after the first four marks I feel harder for people to stick with me letting me kite better. The range is exactly what kindred was missing. Honestly am surprised anyone os this upset with the changes.

Austen186/3/2017, 10:05:11 PM1 votes

I dislike the fact that her marks don't give % healt shred anymore, but Kindred are still a pretty good tank buster, Just pick up a Bloodrazor and Botrk and kite your way to victory. Plus, the added range means you don't have to get as close to tanks as before.