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Why Rengar is unplayable.

MsKatlyn·6/12/2017, 10:08:15 AM·6 votes·1,178 views
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Hi, I'm MsKatlyn, Im currently Gold 2 one tricking Rengar all the way up the ladder, Ive been playing him for over 4 years now, and I've loved every bit of this champion, he's just so much fun and requires mechanics, (talking old Rengar.)

This new Rengar isn't fun at all, it actually feels like I'm playing Azir because of how many nerfs Riot has thrown at Rengar.

At start of Season 7, Rengar was considered broken, so Riot basically said, "Fuck our design to his W, lets remove the CC immunity and nerf his dash on his clunky q, then lets gut his ult because we didn't do that before." 7.3 Patch;

[Q] Savagery : Dash distance 200-150 [W] Battle Roar: (Empowered) No longer gives CC Immunity for 1.5 seconds [R] Thrill of the Hunt: CAMOUFLAGE DURATION: 14/22/30 seconds ⇒ 12/16/20 seconds

Rengar wasn't really dead after these nerfs, he just still didn't feel right to play, actually, let me reiterate; He wasn't fun anymore.

These nerfs were suppose to hit his team fighting ability and getting outta fights with his [W]. I don't know why Riot tried to enforce us with this new empowered Battle Roar, Ghostcrawler said in an interview that they're pushing his direction into Bruiser, instead of an Assassin.

7.5 Patch;

BASE ARMOR: 25.88 ⇒ 22 [W] Battle Roar: GRAY HEALTH CONVERSION: 100% monster damage taken ⇒ 75% monster damage taken

Riot nerfs his clear, making it harder to him fight duelist early like Lee Sin or Elise, this actually was the nerf that hurt him the most. His clear, but now his clear is even worst with the percentage being at 50%.

7.7 Patch:

[Q] Savagery: DAMAGE PER STRIKE: 35/55/75/95/115 ⇒ 25/45/65/85/105 (empowered damage unchanged) RATIO PER STRIKE: 0.3/0.4/0.5/0.6/0.7 bonus attack damage ⇒ 0.2/0.3/0.4/0.5/0.6 bonus attack damage (empowered damage unchanged)

Their was also passive nerfs, making his base AD scaling from his unique kills lowered. These nerfs really gutted this champion, wasn't the whole point of this rework was to make him an assassin? I have to dominate early or I'll be useless with this new Rengar.

Please Riot, you have basically killed Rengar. He's sitting on a whopping 44.19% Win rate, Rengar

If Rengar is so unhealty, why can't you scrap his kit and design and make a whole completely new design, giving him more tools to use at a lower damage window, making it easier for players to react.

For example, Rengar falls in the category of useless or viable. A Rengar player may feel like he doesn't have a enough tools for the hunt, jumps in doesn't get the kill and now feels useless.

Or Rengar jumps in, gets the kill to quick and now theres a balance issue, resulting in nerfs or changes.

I really want my champion back, Ive always wanted to hit diamond with him but with this new Rengar I think I'll let it slide.

5 Comments

sit kid6/12/2017, 10:42:39 AM3 votes

If Rengar is so unhealty, why can't you scrap his kit and design and make a whole completely new design, giving him more tools to use at a lower damage window, making it easier for players to react.

Thats what they did with the rework lmao. Just happened to give him too much utility, meaning rengar could jump in, do his thing and walk out with CC immunity for 1.5 seconds. They have just nerfed the wrong part about his kit too much. His damage is clunky and doesnt feel right at all now.

44.19 winrate? Where do you have that number from?

cheenis boosh1/14/2018, 2:37:11 AM1 votes

I too used to love playing Rengar, and of course Riot has to gut everything thats the slightest bit unhealthy. Except they missed Kayn, Vayne, Nasus (hasn't recieved a proper nerf since patch 5.14), Akali, Zoe, Illaoi, Talon etc. Also, the bullshit about the CC immunity on Rengar for 1.5 seconds? How about you try E'ing right into the team, 3 shotting the ADC and proceed to do the same to the mid laner, all while being stuck at 1 health for 5 fucking seconds. Try Kayn's ability to use his Q to go through thin walls, and then they give him his E which can allow you to disappear from vision into the fucking walls, you can't even ward against his ganks because you can't place a ward inside a fucking wall, and bam he's instantly behind you. Try Talon's ability to use his ult, jump on you with Q, press W and auto attack and you're dead faster than Rengar could kill you, then proceeding to press E to jump over the thickest fucking wall, and the next one after that 2 seconds later without using any mana, literally Pre-Rengar 2.0. They don't even consider this shit to be unhealthy.

Rengar is so trash now that I was playing him just 2 games ago, was going full ad jungle, 8 3 with 160 cs vs a Kayn (Rhaast) who was 1 8 with 120 cs. I was chasing him into the jungle and he went through a wall, so I landed my E and somehow he's not out of the wall, he pops out soon later and before I can even Q, he uses his broken W then hits both parts of his Q, I miss mine because it's literally the most dodge-able and clunky ability in the game, he then auto attacks and for some reason, his Q has a 2 second cooldown for a fucking smooth high damage AOE ability (with a dash similar to Rengar's Q, except it's 2 times fucking further" and with that he unintentionally "dodges" my ferocity Q, which is literally the only damage Rengar has, and after 3 abilities, Kayn can ult me and I die, meanwhile he remains at full fucking health. Why the fuck is he even allowed to do that much damage going 1 fucking 8 with 120 cs, how is Kayn a healthy champion at all? Riot designed the new Rengar to be a bruiser, except they made his ult even more assassin-like, you can't even do it mid combat because they'll fucking see you, and they made Rengar even squishier than he is.

Riot's priorities are fucked.

Anags1/14/2018, 3:54:33 AM1 votes

This post is so missinformed I don't know where to start.

Rengar is at a 49% winrate. He does tons of damage with just duskblade.

He is frequently played at challenger level. Go watch some streams. He is not weak.

despacitus4/8/2018, 3:49:42 PM1 votes

i know this is old but who the fuck will listen to a gold 2 guy XD