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As someone who plays a fair amount of Yuumi, she should not exist

GiraffeFactory·6/25/2019, 2:23:10 AM·35 votes·12,285 views

One of the most infuriating and frustrating champs in the game to play against and sometimes it feels unfair when I'm playing her. The fact she spends the majority of the game untargetable is insane. She provides whoever she's attached to an insane amount of damage in the later game.

But I think what annoys me most about her is that damn q. It's borderline undodgeable "skillshot" and having to lane against it is a nightmare. It honestly feels like yuumi has no weak point throughout the game. Her late game scaling is nuts with the stats she provides for her attached ally. And in lane phase, the constant q harass that you can't even dodge is impossible to lane against.

The only thing I could think of is to make her lane phase much worse. Make her q cost more mana when attached, make it slower, I don't know. I love playing yuumi. She's one of my favorite supports in the game to play. But she shouldn't be this damn strong.

45 Comments

preternatural6/25/2019, 3:08:03 AM12 votes

I disagree, yuumi is so easily countered by hard engage. hardly frustrating to play against, this is in her current over tuned state too that she auto loses to hard engage.

xDogMeatx6/25/2019, 2:28:07 AM8 votes

its a free double kill if her teammate messes up or if yuumi doesnt function well. oh yeah i forgot PLAY Zilean he absolutely destroys her 0 frustration involved see adc with yuumi? good now you can slow the adc and yuumi cant do anything about it. now if yuumi is separated from adc too far range NOW you can E/double bomb her now shes either dead or critically injured. its a catch 22 situation all she can do is shield/heal the enemy.

Xavanic6/25/2019, 2:56:21 AM6 votes

in the right hands yuumi is a monster, but to be fair, she isn't doing that great rn, she has no reliable CC and kinda relies on a competent adc, something that's very rare now a days

Partholonian6/25/2019, 3:41:36 AM6 votes

Her untargetability most of the time is balanced by the fact that killing her ally in a 2v2 is a nearly free doublekill. Even in a 5v5 she may not be able to get to someone else without being interrupted and blown up.

She can't keep up with two enemy champions' damage output, not even close, so she'd better hope her ally kills one of the attackers first. And in an actual fight her Q becomes pretty damn weak, even without minions to block it.

I think she's been nerfed enough for low elo soloq where her ally will often back away while her q is in the air and deny her range, carry her to certain death because they confused the attachment effect with a Taric ult, or similar 200 IQ plays.

But her pro play banrate suggests an Azir effect -- with people who really know her and/or teammates that really know how to play with her she may be too strong. And Azir is still not viable at many people's elos, so that's a depressing thought.

Support Position6/25/2019, 6:26:13 AM5 votes

We finally get a true support thats actually good for once...

God I hate people .-.

Nea1046/25/2019, 2:02:01 PM5 votes

The staff working on this game is basically the same from Season 8, so... No wonder they keep doing incredibly bad choices.

Xela Syab6/25/2019, 5:13:57 AM4 votes

she doesn't have any hard cc and she literally has to build ap to be functional. I think she has a dumb design and if she didn't have the untargetable part of her kit and that strong poke she would be complete garbage. She also has to completely dependant on strong members of her team.

ANearMiss6/25/2019, 2:27:18 AM2 votes

Good kitty.

MasterDClone6/25/2019, 6:32:12 AM2 votes

just get them off my team for godsakes, im sicking of getting revealed by them when im invised.

Hotarµ6/25/2019, 3:00:18 AM2 votes

I won't lie, I hate fighting Yuumi. I play a lot of hook champions and it's almost impossible to (consistently) punish her since she can reattach so quickly and without much effort.

Definitely not saying she's broken or anything like that, I just really dislike fighting her in lane. She crumbles when you actually manage to hit her, but having to kill her ally first just feels... bad.

PuIse6/25/2019, 7:46:50 AM2 votes

try laning against a yuumi/sivir total shitstorm

Jack Eron6/25/2019, 7:35:12 PM1 votes

I see her as the most useless support in the game now. I'm playing for 5 years now, i was almost always a support main over this time and just hate her... but i love when she is in my enemy, it's like a 100% win on botlane.

Easy to dodge her Q, her heal is strong but in late, her shield would be also good but easy to destroy it.

While a normal support would play alongside with his adc, this champ stays inside the adc.... this is a huge problem because when i see 2 people on a lane i have to wach them both and decide which one to focus, which one to CC, and it's not always the adc, it depends on situation.

When there is a Yuumi in the enemy the adc is almost like he is alone. All of the attacks will come from the same direction and both me and my adc can focus the only one guy...

Zilean is like a 100% to counter to yuumi. She just can't heal that amount of dmg what i deal as zilean, my slow is too powerful... so as Leona, or just try a Neeko supp against her :D

Rıots Bad Client6/25/2019, 9:55:56 PM1 votes

She has little risk for little reward. Shes all about being safe at all times.

i think they should increase the Risk factor and increase the reward. (using abilities are not rewards) (like, she has the option of Healing her ally or healing her self... but Shes untargetable... so there isn't a true purpose.

(example, you can use Sylas W at high Hp for the damage, But if you get low, it maybe on CD. OR You can wait and get a bigger heal but risk of executed before the ability goes off.

The biggest "risk" she has is Auto attacking as a range champion with a 700 Range dash to allies. and an auto range of 500. They should really cut down the Dash range to melee range and only gets bigger dashes If and when she is on ally.

She has NO incentive to detach IF she already has a shield on her ally. I think they should Increase her adaptive power. But She Loses the adaptive Over time. Like after 12 seconds after attaching she starts to lose her Adaptive power.

Make her autos adding more shield power the more autos she has. but make the shield really bad if she just lands one auto, and if she reaches max(Lets say Max of 5 autos) she will get a bigger shield.

Hèntaî 6/25/2019, 10:16:33 PM1 votes

Most champs in this game honestly shouldnt exist

The Jetlag6/26/2019, 5:37:06 AM1 votes

Win everytime other team uses her. She is weak and a trash character.

GankLord6/26/2019, 6:24:07 AM1 votes

Meh not really. You kill the adc and she's dead meat. And depending on the support the minute she leaves her partner you should be targeting her. She's free gold if she leaves her laner.

TheBrothersGrymm7/22/2019, 7:19:27 AM1 votes

i hate yummi*[slayer-jinx-unamused]*

koshkyra6/25/2019, 3:13:19 AM1 votes

I have no problem with her being untargetable, its the fucking Q, an undodgeable ability should not have that much range. Her Q is literally a mini cait ult on a basic support ability,

Halodjin Tyr6/25/2019, 3:28:06 AM1 votes

as a person who Hates Cats, I want the ability to Knock her off of me on Purr pus.

Sebastit7d6/25/2019, 7:24:20 AM1 votes

I think her problem is the fact that there's not a big incentive for her to detach besides her passive. If her W stat sharing was temporary and she had to be detached for something like 6/5/4/3/2/1 depending on level seconds before she can share stats again, that would make it possible for people to punish her, being able to cancel her dash is not enough punishment as it's extremely situational. Forcing her to detach to create windows of vulnerability is the way to go, with this you can even revert the number changes to her while keeping her relatively safe.

zeskgames6/25/2019, 1:36:30 PM1 votes

Well to be fair, if you kill Yummi's partner, its basically a free double kill

Hexa XV6/25/2019, 1:58:03 PM1 votes

I would say her early is very bad... If adc dies, she dies with him because people don't pick flashes and she has no escape if there is no one around. I'm always picking ap supports and am very agressive. She is unable to poke because adc is afraid to come close to farm. The pressure in early kills this support and make him useless in mid game. Yuumi becomes stronger only in late when she is able to attach to a tank or fed assasin.

DeadUnborn6/25/2019, 2:30:33 PM1 votes

she is countered by hard engage supports like leona, naut, braum, alistar and morgana. She is not OP by any means, but I can see where you are comming from. As long as you have at least one competent player on your team she is generally good, specially if paired with juggernauts since she enables them a lot

14daysuspensionk6/25/2019, 2:44:43 PM1 votes

Her Q reminds me of bullshit pokes like that Kassadin ball thingy.

A Latte Deaths6/25/2019, 3:32:50 PM1 votes

She has like, a 45% winrate in plat+ where she supposedly starts getting strongest (52% after EIGHTY games played). She's not too strong. The stats she gives are practically nonexistent until she gets a deathcap/maxes W. Her susceptibility to ganks is entirely dependent on her ADC's pick, her Q is easy to hit in lane, but is useless when she gets engaged on. If she's truly too strong, it is in the highest echelons of play, and I don't feel is fair to balance the rest of the game around that .2% of players.

The only thing I could think of is to make her lane phase much worse

If you're arguing bad design, then I sort of agree. Give her a different Q or W passive entirely. She doesnt need net nerfs though, she needs a mini rework. Nerfing her early will completely dumpster a champion who already has a subpar wr throughout the entire match. The only thing more unfun than a difficult to dodge Q by a squishy immobile target, is having to 1v2 a lane because Yuumi apparently isnt allowed to have the capabilities to survive lane.

SmoGGedout16/25/2019, 4:01:25 PM1 votes

Big up ! finally someone that plays a champ and admites its broken and not feel offended when others say it

Voluug136/25/2019, 4:50:36 PM1 votes

But I think what annoys me most about her is that damn q. It's borderline undodgeable "skillshot" and having to lane against it is a nightmare.

Unless your adc positions correctly you will never be on range to properly aim it, and without travel time its just an autoattack that uses mana.