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riot's method to trash games

FrancesbSmAt·6/28/2019, 6:28:53 AM·8 votes·3,692 views

After thousands of games, I spotted the pattern that decides games : if the algorithm wants you to win, they place 2 decent players in your team. If the algorithm doesn't like you, it will give you 3 trash. It's absolutely flawless. People say it's impossible, that riot cannot predict games, etc etc... When it's really that simple : they will give you 2 good players for a win, 1 for a loss.. That's it! And that's why absolute garbage climbing and good players tanking. Demonstration : game 1 https://i.ibb.co/5GNzNHR/1.jpg "woah that panth inted, he lost the game for his team!" Except... No. All the opposite. I absolutely destroy the ennemy team. that's the game at 2:50 https://i.ibb.co/PYswD8G/Screen19.jpg Yes, they managed to feed 2 kills in the first minutes. While I got my kills by planning and outsmarting my opponents, my team just greeded stupidly in lane. Then they did everything to trash the game. They made sure to int hecarim everytime he ganked, and to ruin every ganks of mine. Ex : https://streamable.com/cvp5t He doesnt even bother to auto once. https://streamable.com/6vu6d the premium grabs https://streamable.com/76hg8 turning of the game : yi is dead again, bot is invading near red. I almost get a kill on pyke, he manages to escape with 84 HP (not sure he would have without fed 2 kills and four assists) At this point, I have to summon herald as it's 8 seconds to disappearing. But of course, since yi is dead, xerath knows he can safely roam in our jungle. He just presses E and I'm dead. Meanwhile, kaisa is afk farming. Then she finishes pyke, getting a kill for a job that's 99% mine. That's the game at 15 : https://i.ibb.co/RB27fzG/15.jpg At this point, the game is pretty much done for. I try to get some farm in their jungle, but for some mysterious reason, our mid is top?? I know xerath is missing, so I pay attention, and when I get some vision on him, I try to ult him. But he's so fed he presses 1 button and I'm dead. Yi's fault again. In fact, the guy was autofilled mid, and, instead of telling anything, he just trolled. At this point, it was over, everytime I met someone, they were so fed they just had to press a button and I was dead. The team was doing nothing, always in the wrong places. Ex : https://streamable.com/mxbo0 bot dies stupidly, nobody cares about bot's inib. I have to defend it, I try to, as possible, but garen only has to press E and R, and I'm dead. Same thing again, and again, and again... Until the game is lost. I would have carried with a decent mid, if he just bothered to right click on the ennemies when I gank. I would have won with a decent supp, who just points his mouse on ennemies before pressing Q. I would have won with a decent adc, if she right clicked on the ennemies when I ganked. But riot placed THREE uncarryable noobs in the same team. A coincidence? Ok game 2 : gnar support, we don't even flame him or anything. Then... Draven has a good farm but borderline inting. He clearly doesn't want to bother playing safe without support. Yet gnar doesn't care, he roams top and leaves him solo. bot and mid destroy him, then me, when I was trying to help. If gnar was him, it was a 3v3, it might have been different. I tell him that he's support, not jungler, and that instead of doing krugs, he must stay with draven. But?? https://streamable.com/fk0mx I mean, that's intentionally losing. Riven and draven inting, staying away during teamfights, but chasing stupidly to the fountain when everybody's going back. Could have been an easy win, but they constantely kept throwing. Once again, the 3/2 rule : 2 bad players is carryble, 3 is not. 3d game : https://i.ibb.co/tJHWPdb/2.jpg mid is obviously a smurf with a bot account https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/EUW1/231365818?matchType=2 jinx carries frequently, and I was premade with yorrick. Though yorrick and I didn't do great, we still managed to be useful and not feed. Zyra was bad. The game was won at champ select.

4th game : https://i.ibb.co/NFFZDxg/3.jpg Illaoi and I destroyed the game, the rest was pure trash. kaisa : does TERRIBLE every single time she plays adc. Consistently lower damages than everyone else in the game. https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/EUW1/204601715 mid feeds 90% of the times he plays yasuo : https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/EUW1/40703163?champion=157&matchType=2 support feeding and braindead The 2/3 rule again.

5th game : https://i.ibb.co/gFyDnXt/4.jpg Top is a feeder, he's always asking for ganks, I'm always ganking him, but he's always dying before I can arrive. He has 50 farms when GP has 120. Yasuo and kaisa are feekills, literally offering themselves in the middle of the lane, over and over. Thresh is pretty good. 2/3 rule again.

And I've noticed this pattern every single time I go to ranked. Now, I would be willing to admit it's my fault IF the way I played had any influence on the outcome. The thing is, in all those games, I've done pretty well. Except ONE, and, this ONE game I played meh... Is the only one that was won. The games where I played the best, were the one lost the hardest. That makes absolutely no fucking sense if we pretend it's a skill-based game where both teams are balanced, random, and our performance is what determines victory.

But if we admit the game is rigged, and winning is determined by how riot dispatches players in teams, then that makes a lot more sense.

29 Comments

O Fallen Scholar7/1/2019, 11:12:09 AM4 votes

Watched your match history. Over half of your games you just int. I think you're to blame not the matchmaking.

FrancesbSmAt6/30/2019, 4:14:03 PM3 votes

the pattern is very easy to see: 1/2 free games where matchmaking is so broken even a spectator would win 1 close game 2 or 3 games where matchmaking makes sure you have 0 chance to win even when 20/0 1 or 2 pretty easy game except you have 1 or 2 trolls who will ruin at the slightest frustration https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/EUW1/2144660827811648?matchType=2

how to trash games just with team composition, by riot

KicktheDoor6/28/2019, 8:03:57 AM3 votes

Pre-game stat sites demonstrate that the outcome of most games is determined before they even begin. Individual performance has no impact on how much LP you win or lose after a match, it's ridiculous that someone whose playing poorly on a winning team gets the same amount of LP as someone carrying. Vice-versa players doing well on a losing team shouldn't lose as much LP as someone feeding. The easy fix is to make LP gains and losses scale with performance. For example, getting S rank and losing reduces LP lost by 50% and winning with S rank should increase LP gains and so on.

It would also encourage players to stay invested in games they anticipate to lose and for players doing poorly to do better in games they anticipate to win. In my opinion this would make games and the community MUCH healthier.

FrancesbSmAt7/1/2019, 10:23:41 AM3 votes

once more : 1 epic stomp, 3 garbage teams. Always, always, the same pathetic little %%%% mid who pretends he doesn't hear pings when his laner roams in my jungle at min 2. It's ALWAYS him who trashes the game as it starts, and he's ALWAYS on my team. Easty to see they put him here to lose intentionally

Edit : one more uncarryable team made of total garbage! Inting first time top, inting adc and support. Typical pattern

xDogMeatx6/28/2019, 12:23:44 PM3 votes

screw those who say "hide summoner names" if its in replay you shouldnt need to censorship gameplay proof of how messed up the matchmaking thing is. hes not really aiming directly at those players its more of a question of "why am i put in matches where my teammates intentionally feed to the point where my skill/MMR dont even matter" also the enemy team has LCS material comp with a hivemind. i get this feeling of "whats the point in skill if games are predecided". all you need to do is ping smart use the least skilled champ to win and let the dungeons and dragons RNG dice roll to see if you got a win.

ZephyrDrake7/4/2019, 8:30:22 PM3 votes

Love how you make this thread and about 3 of those "examples" is you being the one who is playing poorly... ok dude whatever you say.

The Kombinator6/28/2019, 9:52:07 AM3 votes

I wonder, if it changes, if you buy RP. The secret mana, that let you climb, and change algorythm. Wouldn't be surprised, if the game were actually rigged so, that only paying players can climb, and writing the algorythm isn't that difficult.

FioraWillCarry6/29/2019, 9:00:54 PM2 votes

There are games I straight up troll and inted and never died 17 times. You're just as bad, if not worse than your team mates. I don't say this to be an asshole but it's the plain truth.

Lets discuss your clips. That first one where you ganked, what I assume is a Master Yi mid on your team, you straight up fucked up. That was one of the most horrible ganks I have ever seen. That side bush was pink warded so Xerath saw you coming, Yi was pushed and has almost half health. Yi has no gap closers or any form of CC to stack with your stun and finally, Xerath was near his tower and given that he saw you on a pink ward, had ample time to respond. If anything, I'm impressed with the Master Yi. He was clearly the better player here as he rightfully judged that forcing a fight there was very stupid and elected to let you die alone instead of giving a double kill. The failure there was all you.

The second clip where you ganked bot, I can't really fault for you that one. Bad luck you arrived just after your adc died. However, blaming Blitz for that is just plain stupid. Unlike Pantheon, Blitzcrank is not point and click cancer. His hook is a long cooldown skillshot. How the fuck do you expect any human to hit 100% of all skillshots. Maybe we should go through your match history and clip every single time you missed a skillshot on champion with them, then we could talk about "premium grabs". If anything, the adc is to blame for that gank failing. He got his dumb ass killed when you were on your way to gank bot. Whatever fuck-up he did to die there, he needed to do that a few seconds later when you were near enough to turn it or trade kills at least.

The 3rd clip where you whiffed the Rift Herald. Again, you made the largest fuck-up of everyone there. Kai'sa actually played better than you. Mid had zero priority when you went to Red to try and kill Pyke, The most obvious fuckin thing in the world was to expect Xerath to roam. What you did there is classic fuckin Bronze, greeding for kills. Kaisa had just killed Xayah and Pyke was severely wounded so her going to lane to push the minions was the correct thing to do. What YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE was help her shove in, so Xayah could be denied and Kaisa could back and buy and if Xerath tried to come down to stop that, he and Pyke would have been in a more disadvantaged position because you and Blitz would have been closer to Kaisa where she could immediately respond. It would have been a proper 3v2 and most likely you wouldn't have died. Again you were the entire reason that play failed.

Now you are quite correct in saying that Riot's system is to blame for all this. Watching all those clips, reading your take on them and taking into account your stats, I've concluded that Riot's system placed you poorly. You're currently ranked in Silver 4. You should be ranked lower. Taking everything into consideration, I'd say you should be ranked about Bronze 3, not Silver 4 so in that sense you are right that Riot is to blame here. Now you might be thinking, Silver, Bronze, whats the difference? Well, there is a difference, a minor one but a recognizable one. Silver players do a lot of dumb shit but Bronze players.....well they do even dumber shit and far more often. Gold players do the least amount of dumb shit but they do dumb shit too. Having played extensively in all 3 elos I can definitely say that you're not quite Silver yet. You should be around Bronze 3. Those plays you made and your analysis of why they failed is Bronze level, borderline Iron level understanding. A solid Silver player would not make some of those plays you made. It doesn't mean they are good at the game but it does mean they are better than you. In general, Silver players are veterans at the game with a lot of experience but for one reason or another, remain bad, mostly poor macro. Bronze players are generally new players or very casual "2 games a week" kind of players with no discernible understanding whatsoever about how the game actually works.

Again, I don't say this to be an asshole but someone needs to tell it to you straight before you delude yourself into believe you're actually good at the game when you've presented clear evidence to the contrary. Hopefully after you rage out at me or whatever, and you calm down, you have some time to think with a clear head, you might drop that ego and actually try to better understand the game.

Crispy0Snake6/28/2019, 6:35:26 AM2 votes

You need to hide those summoner names and repost

Sylaelque6/30/2019, 3:55:42 PM1 votes

Illaoi isn't broken.... [sg-miss-fortune]

FrancesbSmAt6/30/2019, 3:25:03 PM1 votes

https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/4085012478/2144660827811648 https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/4085061841/2144660827811648 riot is a joke https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/4086348522/2144660827811648?tab=overview this game? I was 4/0 90% of the time, until jinx decides to throw. I got THREE fkn towers AND one inhib in a single go. They get 3 inhibs down. And this little piece of shit STILL refuses to baron. Ahri doesn't have ONE FKN KILL. NOT ONE

Hi Im Comfy6/28/2019, 1:21:56 PM1 votes

I think there is something potentially here, but you need a muuuuuch larger sample size than 1-2 players. You need thousands. I would try to run a decent study though, I would be interested to see what you find.

Luxanna Ahegao6/28/2019, 7:15:54 AM1 votes

I only agree with the first part of your post and i blame autofill for it