I don't know how many times I've done this, Riot, but I'll do it again. Please respond. ...Olaf.

vuduchikin·9/30/2014, 10:49:35 PM·31 votes·2,515 views

(I'll respond to every comment in this thread, so feel free to say whatever you want.)

I've already beaten my ideas and views on Olaf to death in previous threads. If you're interested in what myself and other people have posted in the past, I'll link all of the threads that I can remember according to date (top to bottom).

In short:

Q:

Undertow's minimum range is clunky and very frustrating when it's able to be abused, but if it needs to stay, so be it. Maybe tone the damage down a bit and increase the slow / add some light movement speed to emphasize its role as a gap closer? Or slightly lower the minimum range. If the former is considered, then compensate by adding damage somewhere else into his kit.

W:

It's very obvious, based on the feedback of most Olaf fans alone, that Vicious Strikes isn't cutting it. Attack speed is busted and almost impossible to use in team fights on a champion with no reliable CC (stun). It's locked into a spit pushing tool, and if someone wanted to play a spit pushing duelist, they won't play Olaf, they'd play Tryndamere or Udyr. He's not mobile enough for that role, as is (not even mentioning that most Olaf players don't want to fulfill that role in the first place). Replace it with another stat. Flat AD is the simple route, but something like this could be interesting:

"Vicious Strikes grants Olaf passive armor penetration. When activated, the blood of Olaf's foes fill him with battle rage, granting him movement speed for X seconds after attacking an enemy."

Or just flat armor penetration, adding more reward to landing your axes. Just some suggestions off the cuff, though.

E:

This ability is fine. In this imaginary kit, the attack speed on Vicious Strikes is likely replaced by AD, though. So the auto attack CD reduction should probably go. Reduce the base cool down to compensate. Adjust damage numbers / scaling accordingly.

R:

The #1 criticism that I hear from other people when discussing Olaf is the fact that he loses his passive resistances when you pop Ragnarok. That's a very valid point, and a huge weakness in his kit. Probably the only ultimate in the entire game that punishes the player for using it, actually. I suggest reworking it entirely, since having a huge AD steroid baked into CC immunity is actually fucking broken. But, if that's what Riot wants to stick to, then here's a tweak that could work:

  1. Keep passive resistances, lower the amount of AD gained. Something like 15/30/45, or 20/40/60.

But personally I enjoy the idea of completely reworking it, like I said earlier. So here is a slew of suggestions that you can work with, Riot. I'm handing them to you. Please don't leave us hanging, this time (bit of a tangent but yeah). Anyway:

  1. Keep the passive. Double the passive upon activation. Slight movement speed boost.

  2. Keep the passive. Moderate movement speed boost. 5/6/7 second duration (so, a one second increase at max rank. The numbers are probably stupid, but just to give you an idea).

  3. Cut the passive. Slight to moderate movement speed boost. Entirely define Olaf as a counter to CC heavy teams by giving Ragnarok a 7/8/9 second duration (again, numbers are just placeholders). Maybe add a slight amount of some stat (not attack speed) if it's too weak. That, or add power into another part of his kit to reward good Olaf players.

That's it, really. These are all just ideas to help feed a discussion. Hopefully this thread doesn't follow the trend of countless others (I;E ignored. No pressure).

Past threads:

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4581715 http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4688444 http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4689622 http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4690257 http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4841952

If I'm missing any, just let me know.

BROMACIA.

33 Comments

SandTower9/30/2014, 11:01:09 PM7 votes

#Bromacia

YeezusDied4You10/1/2014, 12:26:24 AM4 votes

Godtrox here http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/19993571#ranked-stats, dedicated Olaf main along side Lorithas

Olaf is in dire need of help, but step 1 is get Riot's attention. If they do happen to respond please add either Lorithas or me (My Krazy Life) so we can talk to you guys and maybe help. We are both pretty in-tune with Olaf and have lots of experience, and we both love the Olaf

Xenohaz9/30/2014, 11:18:45 PM3 votes

Good luck to you on getting more attention for this. I personally don't have many opinions on Olaf, but I'd love to see what I rioter has to say on what you wrote. I know from experience that it's very frustrating having your post unanswered.

vuduchikin10/1/2014, 2:14:13 AM1 votes

Yeah, Sion's pretty cool.

Sintobus10/1/2014, 5:06:29 AM1 votes

Change title or add a TL;DR to top or bottom so people don't have to read through a chunk of it to really understand what this is about.

After reading: Essentially clean up how it is arranged, formatted, and presented would probably help too. As someone who had not seen this prior I felt really confused initially and even a bit more so as I began reading down. Maybe because it is late and I am sleepy also but I feel it would get a lot more love if it was easier to follow/read.

I don't really have an opinion on this partly because it is so hard to follow right now for my brain sorry.

Rayre10/1/2014, 4:03:28 PM1 votes

didn't really read everything, but this seems important, so up vote

engard10/1/2014, 10:10:42 PM1 votes

Help Olaf.

Destínum10/2/2014, 10:25:47 AM1 votes

With champs like New Sion, Tryndamere and Aatrox all having basically what defines Olaf, I feel he's biggest problem is lack of identity. I don't really know what they need to do tbh, but I feel like keeping the cc immunity of his ult is the most important thing.

Creamy Seaman10/2/2014, 3:34:24 PM1 votes

Olaf is the weird kid that no no one wants to help out because they are afraid of looking weird themselves.

The last Troll10/3/2014, 6:25:04 AM1 votes

I really like his level 1 cheese. Tell me you didn't crack a smile whenever someone thought they could smack you around at level 1 and then realize that they're going to die from too many axes to the face.

However I disagree with the E. I think it hits too weakly and doesn't feel impactful when used. Sure it ensures that you can never truly counter Olaf's damage but it also means that it's going to be out shone by basic Health as it does pretty mediocre damage early on.

vuduchikin10/4/2014, 4:54:49 AM1 votes

BROMACIA#2

vuduchikin9/30/2014, 10:54:09 PM1 votes

I'll be the first to comment.

Zanphyra10/7/2014, 9:28:17 PM1 votes

Bromacia!

But yes 100% agreed. He doesn't really have a place and needs some help. Your post is pretty good.

Hoi Im Temmo9/30/2014, 11:36:46 PM1 votes

The point of this thread, it seems, is to be the next in what is apparently a line of threads attempting to get Riots attention about Olaf.

While I am sure they admire your tenacity, they are not likely to post because you spam them. Further, there are MANY champions they are working on, and Olaf is at least passable for a little bit. Champs like Urgot (and Sion, though not for long) are in greater need. Riot will get to him, just be patient.

Legostrike10/1/2014, 12:36:28 AM1 votes

Don't get rid of the lifesteal on my Olaf kit, that's THE best part about him IMO.