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Who is the most balanced champion in league?

Chill Vibez··50 votes·12,070 views

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Everyday we hear about op, nerf, broken, etc.. but lets go a different route..

Who do you think is in a perfect place right now?

maybe Riot can learn from this thread and have something to work off of, idk either way I'm just curious who the champ would be.

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My personal choice would be Orianna Orianna. I think that her early game isn't great, her mid game is decent, and her late game is beast mode. It's essentially how a late game champ should be made. In my opinion, she's one of the hardest champions to play in League of Legends, but taking the time to master her, is definitely worth it. Also, she really excels with teamplay .. so if your team isn't grouping or playing together (mainly solo queue) then she will definitely not be as strong.

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RenownedWheat4265 votes

I think Sion is basically perfect right now.

Tychusfindlay91918 votes

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I think Sion is basically perfect right now.

He could use a little base stat love, but yea, I'd agree he's in a great spot

Gary PC1 votes

agreed his early game is really bad

JVP1519 votes

I actually think he has a decent early game, although mostly against melee opponents. It can be hard to dodge his Q stun, and his E is good poke. It is by no means amazing, but I can normally do pretty good with it.

Apocyliptic7 votes

Sion needs no buffs. So sick of the boards circle jerk towards this champion. If you've ever laned against a GOOD sion you definitely wouldn't be asking for buffs.

Ralanr3 votes

Sion main here, doesn't need buffs.

Only change he needs is for people to stop walking through him when he's charging his Q.

T7 Messiah7 votes

Another Sion main here. I think he's in a good place right now, but I think that his in-death abilities could be a bit more diverse than 1 ability. Of course, I don't think he should be able to just spam all his death abilities, but making 2 or 3 options may help in some situations.

48983507DEL141 votes

"Her early game isn't great."

Have you never played against an Oriana? Her harass is toxic as fuck, and her shield + movement speed makes her incredibly safe.

PimpStickNasus34 votes

Idk but I think we should nerf irelia

Fondling Gems4 votes

Nerf Irelia? Uhh ohh, better nerf Irelia!

Morgan le Fey23 votes

Patch notes: While we like to encourage diversity in the jungle, sometimes our jungle supports get a little too strong. Nunu in particular has been taking over games lately. With his ability to reduce attack speeds adversely affecting autoattackers such as Xerath or Janna in teamfights, we decided it's time to make some adjustments.

Irelia

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Fondling Gems5 votes

You know when you haven't paid attention to the meta in so long that for a moment you wonder when Nunu became good again before reading the rest of the post? Yeah, pretty bad. Should probably nerf Irelia.

As an interesting side note Riot already killed this meme, they buffed Irelia a while back.

SirΤeemο22 votes

Teemo

Jbels17 votes

Sion

ModJango Mage10 votes

I would say even tough the last mid season brought him out of balance a bit, his still pretty balanced. Velkoz

Sexy Jack Rabbit3 votes

I just felt like he didn't NEED to be reworked at all.

Ironically he's almost always been balanced.

The only time he can be a little bit frustrating is when you're versing him as another Artillery mage.

AirKingNeo10 votes

"Orianna's early game isn't great."

She's a lane bully. What? Her ball move cooldown is pretty low, she has a shield to reduce trades too, and his ball move slow TLD is a half HP.

Blåbæret2 votes

I love how people throw around the word lane bully for pretty much everything and anything. Orianna isn't a lane bully.

the weeaboo8 votes

Really because I'd say Orianna is broken and horrible to play against. She just does way too much damage with a simple QW.

My choice is Xayah to be honest. She's very good at what she does and requires skill to play well, but also has clear weaknesses and bad matchups that make her niche. Pretty bad early but insane lategame, without the infuriating range of a Jinx.

AurelionSol Braum Diana JarvanIV Nidalee Nami Tristana are all champs that don't tilt me in champ select

Poske3 votes

Xayah has a bit to strong steroid with her 20% bonus AD

Also everyone is playing her wrong

Her ultimate cooldown probably wont be reason enough not to nerf her

Tiddy Twister7 votes

I don't think Orianna's numbers have been touched in years. The only changes to her have been very minor QoL changes. She has big playmaking potential, but you need to earn it by capitalizing on opponents mistakes. That's how it should be. She also has significant counterplay. You can dodge all of her spells, and her ult has an indicator to give you a chance to avoid it. Basically the perfectly designed champion.

Asayake 5150glow2 votes

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I don't think Orianna's numbers have been touched in years. The only changes to her have been very minor QoL changes. She has big playmaking potential, but you need to earn it by capitalizing on opponents mistakes. That's how it should be. She also has significant counterplay. You can dodge all of her spells, and her ult has an indicator to give you a chance to avoid it. Basically the perfectly designed champion.

Her early game isn't quite as weak as this post would have you believe, that is, against melee champions. Her passive and low Q CD give her incredible DPS, and Q is a lot harder to dodge when it's close to you (as a melee champion).

k wìx7 votes

Lux I believe Lux is in an awesome spot, fills that Ranged Nuker role very well. She has very defined strengths and weaknesses, and her scaling is on point.

Vi Great engage tools, counterable, and not too absurd on the burst. she's exactly what i think of when the term 'bruiser' comes to mind.

Sivir Really, really well balanced ADC here - she is surprisingly versatile and defensive, with some amazing late game potential.

Heimerdinger Potent but balanced. His burst is extreme but his shots and skills are tough to line up and he's super vulnerable. I think he's one of the better balanced mages currently.

Braum Super well balanced. Great use of CC - hits the sweet spot between 'too tanky' and 'not tanky'. Not overbearing. You know where you stand and how fucked you are with Braum. It never feels unfair when you get control'd.

Zilean My personal main - I love the Z-Train. He's terrifying in good hands, and has a pretty high skill cap. He mixes an excellent slice of burst, control, and area denial. His weakness is simply mobility. He really can't deal with the likes of 'mobility' kits. His bomb stun and remake were handled fantastically. Don't change a thing, Riot!

Xayah Call me crazy, and I know its early, but man - her Kit is fantastic, she is one of the best new designs out of riot in a long time. Her burst is nuts, but the setup for it is rough.

Change is gooood4 votes

I like your choices

k wìx1 votes

Hey thanks buddy, i like you!

koshkyra3 votes

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Hey thanks buddy, i like you!

I agree too. Everyone but Vi. Vi is broken. I dont know how you see her as balanced.

...but the rest!

k wìx2 votes

Thats interesting! I feel like she's been replaced by Champions who offer more reliable control / cc options and are tankier in general like Darius Gragas Galio ect ect.

koshkyra3 votes

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Thats interesting! I feel like she's been replaced by Champions who offer more reliable control / cc options and are tankier in general like Darius Gragas Galio ect ect.

Oh, no, you arent wrong there at all.

Vi is much ahead of champions of her class, however. She is basically a burst assassin (which is fine), but she has the added tankiness which to me feels overpowered.

JaxMoonStealer2 votes

Can't speak about the others since I don't play them much, but Vi is one of my mains on my main account in LAN. I definitely think she's stronger than a lot of champions and most junglers. And her R has no counterplay, to be honest.

I would even say she's a Lee Sin without a reliable escape.

YoungSirJ0ey1 votes

That. Isn't. What. Counterplay. Means.

JaxMoonStealer2 votes

Then what is it? I mean, I know that pressing R as Vi means my opponent is most likely screwed unless it's Xayah, Fizz, or Zed.

SteelMankind7 votes

Had a feeling someone would mention Orianna when I read the topic title.

Don't get me wrong, Orianna is pretty well-balanced, but I wouldn't say shes the best. It's like 10x easier to carry with her when her team has a vanguard/diver to put the ball on. If she falls behind, Ori does very little damage because only her W has respectable base value, while if she gets a lead it becomes very difficult to lane against her due to how short her CDs are and how she can easily proc TLD with a basic ability combo. Her passive is also kinda bad early on - bonus magic damage autos don't mean too much when you have 40 base AD.

She also may have been a hard champion when she was released back in 2010 or whenever, but in 2017 shes above-average difficulty at best. The ball really isnt that hard to micro (not that it has much to do with being well-balanced).

She may always be playable while never overbearing, but the issues I mentioned above make me hesitant to say shes outright the most balanced champ.

My vote for most balanced goes to Sion and Nami.

Zedex7 votes

Yasuo

Papa Slothy7 votes

TwistedFate

clear strengths, clear weaknesses

Mannny5 votes

Diana is pretty much the only assassin i consider fair, as her gap closers need to be earned, unlike most assassins out there.

Serika Zero3 votes

and she doesn't get a "free escape" like most of them >.>

Electro5225 votes

I've said this before, and I'll say it again.

In my opinion, Nami is one of the most balanced champs in the game. Yeah, yeah, she uses Redemption, which is still pretty OP right now, but even with that, she is in a solid state.

Not overbearing, but still quite strong. Very clear strengths and weaknesses, and also has a decent mastery curve (especially with her bubble).

Seriously, when was the last time you felt you couldn't do anything against a Nami? Never, right? Cause, throughout the entire game, you feel you can outplay her, and you can. If you get hit by a bubble, it doesn't make you rage, you actually say "Wow, that was a good bubble." Even when shes being hyper aggressive in lane, and possibly kicking your ass, it still feels like she can beaten.

THAT, my friends, is a sign of very good balance.

AbiwonKenabi4 votes

I think most immobile marksman are fairly balanced usually, with some occasional outliers through League's history. Basically, a trade in mobility for potentially the most consistent damage in the game. Someone like Jinx starts with a fairly weak lane phase, but if her support can work with her she survives long enough to deal loads of damage; but she's still vulnerable to being caught and blown up, there are obvious ways to play against her. It's a team effort, but it's really rewarding for anybody on her team to pull off keeping her alive long enough in a teamfight to just go crazy.

Immobile carries like Jinx or Twitch usually end up in ok spots, and it seems like their balance depends more on items or other Champions state of balance rather than their own numbers.

Rem Was Here4 votes

Morgana

Sexy Jack Rabbit4 votes

Sivir stands out to me as pretty balanced, especially after the utter domination she did of Season 5 Competitive.

AgeOfTheMage3 votes

Skarner he's really balanced atm. Shen same for him Taliyah and her. I've noticed the most balanced champs are the least seen

koshkyra1 votes

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Skarner he's really balanced atm. Shen same for him Taliyah and her. I've noticed the most balanced champs are the least seen

Agreed on Shen and Taliyah, but Skarner feels ridiculously OP to me.

Zane Zephyr2 votes

I'd assume it's probably because a lot of people don't know how to play against skarner (myself partially included) because he's seen so rarely so theoretically it wouldnt be hard to faceroll with him

Statikin2 votes

Velkoz

Bârd2 votes

Vel is an interesting case; it seems that he is just destined to be the most balanced one.

He was universally considered to be perfectly balanced on release.

Then they buffed him. He was still considered pretty goddamn balanced.

Then they did it again, and his state hasn't changed one bit.

AFilthyCaitMain1 votes

Ashe Has always been an ok champion

SparksFFF2 votes

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Ashe Has always been an ok champion

i agree out of all the champions i say ashe is the most balanced right now. yes her slow is annoying as hell..but all champions have something annoying. ashe has a good early game great mid game and depending on there build a fantastic late game. she is the most balanced right now to me.

Cavemantero1 votes

{quoted} My personal choice would be Orianna Orianna.

Her kit is overloaded and her ult is one of the best in the game (thus why she's been longtime popular in LCS.) She does too much damage for what her kit does. She is not balanced.

I think Lux is the most balanced champ. Skillshot with hard cc. Decent damage but avoidable and mitigatable (is that a word?). Kit isn't overloaded and she's fun to play.

Automated Riven4 votes

how is oriannas kit overloaded?

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