According to League of Graphs, Plat + players (Ranked Solo/Duo) are literally in the top 19% of all League players.
Now, I understand that Plat (and Diamond) players sometimes don't understand wave manipulation/map awareness/other stuff pros are great at, but is it really fair to call anything that's below D2 "low elo"?
This is not a rant. I'm curious what you guys think a "good" elo is, and why?
Most people will say D2+ because it's a really hard elo to get to. When you see a D2+ player as a low elo scrub, you think "man, they're good". Whereas D4/D3... it seems obtainable for an average joe if they put the effort in
Challenger players still think that anything below rank 100 is horrible. People like LS believe that anything that isn't in pro league is garbage. Korean players and EU players say NA is garbage. all in all, its a bad question to ask, dw about it tbh.
Iron 4 they have the most fun
With how the majority of plat and low diamond players play, it sure as hell doesn't feel like a "good elo."
okay everything below D1 is straight up trash. D1- Master is ok at best ANd everything above that could be called good.
High silver and Low gold is good. Mid silver looks to be the average. I define Good as above average. The 50% marker is in silver 2 when I checked last. Now if I was to use Normal distribution as a model and go off class intervals built out of that? Good would be in mid gold as that's where you see folks on the curve.
MMR and Elo systems work around Averaged levels of skill and grade in comparison to that. So when I hear good that translates to me as provably above average, and I use the Mean value to judge what Average is rather then a Median or Mode.
Actually looks more like plat is top 15%, going by all servers anyway.
I think a good rank is gold. You have a grasp on the game and can hold your own against over 50% of the playerbase.
Now high elo is a whole different animal. I'll say this here and now, I think high elo players in masters aren't that good. A lot of these people try smurfing in low elo and they play as if they're in challenger. You're not. Something I absolutely hate about playing bot lane; I have to rely on a team mate in lane. High elo players play as if the team mate knows what to do and how to rotate and good zoning/engage/disengage/watch the map.
Of course there are people who are professional smurfs, they make a career off of climbing the ranks. Tyler1 could be considered one because of all his bans and climbing on new accounts. Rat IRL, Dekar173, ScrubNoob, TFBlade, Damir you get the idea. These people know how to play in each elo. They know in iron to gold they can solo carry and not rely on their teams. In plat it's possible but not as easy because now you have people who know how to use their lead. Once they get to diamond they flame so much because they expect challenger but they're in diamond.
Yassuo once said this about (I think) Damir himself, that he can't climb in low elo the way Damir can. Now of course that's not to say Yassuo, Voyboy, Dyrus, Imaqtpie, etc. would be stuck in iron 4, they can easily climb to diamond. But they've learned to solo carry without relying on people, because that's how they solo queue, and former pro players can switch their playstyle between "my team who I live with" and "random college kid streaming without a shirt on in d1", but some people know how to do it a lot better. I think they've just been in this same skill range for so long that they're playing a different game. Everyone knows where the jungler is, where the roaming mid laner is, where the wards are, it's not the same game. In gold/plat I can sweep and find a ward at dragon, a ward at the river bush, and a ward in the bush opposite side blue buff back wall, or I can find it sitting in the middle of bot lane in a terrible spot, even found some NEXT TO a bush. In challenger/gm? Same fucking spots.
inb4 "then get challenger" or "1v1 them". No. I really don't have the low blood pressure to play this game religiously and become a high rank, nor am I that good. Plus high elo in most games is boring. Got to one of the top ranks in Wizard101 back in like 2010, got real boring. Same decks, same armor, same meta. Same with high ranks in Dead by Daylight, Overwatch, League of Legends, and frankly I don't want to deal with some of the fuckery that goes on up there. I don't want target inting because Chase Shaco is on my team, I don't want to deal with Tarzaned going AFK because Dekar called him a fetal alcohol baby on Twitter, I don't want PornStarZilean playing Nunu because his father didn't love him. Everyone imagines playing with imaqtpie and knowing everyone and they know you, but that's really rare unless it's a slow day.
TL;DR - Gold is good, high elo (above diamond 1) is overrated. Enjoy your elo if you're mid gold, it's pretty close to paradise. Most people don't have an ego, everyone understands they're in gold together. Nobody is stressed about getting gold 4 for the season skin. Plat is where the toxic egomaniacs go.
According to League of Graphs, Plat + players (Ranked Solo/Duo) are literally in the top 19% of all League players.
Now, I understand that Plat (and Diamond) players sometimes don't understand wave manipulation/map awareness/other stuff pros are great at, but is it really fair to call anything that's below D2 "low elo"?
This is not a rant. I'm curious what you guys think a "good" elo is, and why?
Realistically there is a mid elo. you CAN NOT have a low and a high without having a middle. the community just skips the middle and deems everything as either low elo or high elo. the "everything below D1 is low elo" mentality is elitist mentality born from a toxic community long ago that is still spreading to this day.
you shouldnt let anyone question or bother you about elo especially when you try to get better. with millions of people playing this game top 20% really isnt bad. the people that just dont give a fuck and stop trying to improve themselves are the actual degenerates.
alot of you guys need to understand how impossible it is for fressh players to even get into this game.
Id say top 10% of ranked ladder
Talking by percentages, anything above like gold 4 is pretty good. Being better than half the playerbase sounds good to me.
You don't need to be top 1% to be "good". Use Riot's way of doing it, pretty sure they have 3 tiers below pro play. The third one starts at D1 I believe, not sure about the other two.
Taking into consideration how many accounts never play, alts that are never leveled, people who play once a week or even once a month or less, and people who just don't ever try, I would say that plat4+ is the top 40% of all semi-serious players.
i really cant tell you what it is, plat 4 being top 13% on euw, it sounds like a great thing. youre far above the average. but still this elo sucks. i suck. theres just something to the game which i cant tell. but i myself also consider d4+ a good elo and anything below that just time and common sense.
like i dont wanna sound insulting but i spent enough time in silver to tell you, these players dont read ANYTHING from items to abilities and they cant do basic math. lv 8 jungler comes to solo gank a lane when his laner just recalled and dies vs a lv 11 enemy. happens so many times. people buying items that dont work together (like trinity and iceborn gauntlet as both have the same unique passive) or maw and phantom dancer for "double shield" when again both share the same UNIQUE passive. mastery lv 7 players going "wow i just found out you can do this and that" etc.
the only good elo is no elo. the higher someone's elo is, the higher their ego is and more likely for them to harass you about your low elo.
I thought Plat+ is 9% of playerbase
You have to be beyond pro. Everyone else is trash.
Looking at the site you provided I'd say the following
Low ELO: Iron 4 to Silver 1
Average ELO: Gold 4 to Diamond 3
High ELO: Diamond 2+
Diamond 4 and 3 doesn't mean as much as it used to in previous seasons due to the issues at the beginning of the season.
I've seen op.gg's of S8 Silvers being in High Diamond and S8 Gold's in Master.
Important to distinguish between good in an absolute sense and good relatively speaking. Relatively speaking even being gold can be good, since you're better than the average player. The problem is the average player is pretty bad in an absolute sense, so you're probably master+ before being good in some absolute sense.
(And even challenger players aren't necessarily at the pinnacle of league good-ness, since theres lots of more subtle stuff in organised [i.e. pro] play to learn, and room to expand their champ pool.)
